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From: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
To: Emily Shaffer <nasamuffin@google.com>
Cc: Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Jonathan Nieder <jrn@google.com>,
	Jose Lopes <jabolopes@google.com>,
	Aleksandr Mikhailov <avmikhailov@google.com>
Subject: Re: Proposal/Discussion: Turning parts of Git into libraries
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 14:09:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/UXBw3Y9YnXUBIN@nand.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJoAoZ=Cig_kLocxKGax31sU7Xe4==BGzC__Bg2_pr7krNq6MA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 01:12:23PM -0800, Emily Shaffer wrote:
> This turned out pretty long-winded, so a quick summary before I dive in:
>
> - We want to compile parts of Git as independent libraries
> - We want to do it by making incremental code quality improvements to Git
> - Let's avoid promising stability of the interfaces of those libraries
> - We think it'll let Git do cool stuff like unit tests and allowing
>   purpose-built plugins
> - Hopefully by example we can convince the rest of the project to join
>   in the effort

Like others, I am less interested in the VFS-specific components you
mention here, but I suspect that is just one particular instance of
something that would be benefited by making git internals exposed via a
linkable library.

I don't have objections to things like reducing our usage of globals,
making fewer internal functions die() when they encounter an error, and
so on. But like Junio, I suspect that this is definitely an instance of
a "devil's in the details" kind of problem.

That's definitely my main concern: that this turns out to be much more
complicated than imagined and that we leave the codebase in a worse
state without much to show. A lesser version of that outcome would be
that we cause a lot of churn in the tree with not much to show either.

So I think we'd want to see some more concrete examples with clear
benefits to gauge whether this is a worthwhile direction. I think that
strbuf.h is too trivial an example to demonstrate anything useful. Being
able to extract config.h into its own library so that another non-Git
program could link against it and implement 'git config'-like
functionality would be much more interesting.

Thanks,
Taylor

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-17 21:12 Proposal/Discussion: Turning parts of Git into libraries Emily Shaffer
2023-02-17 21:21 ` brian m. carlson
2023-02-17 21:38   ` Emily Shaffer
2023-02-17 22:41     ` brian m. carlson
2023-02-17 22:49       ` Emily Shaffer
2023-02-22 19:34         ` Jeff King
2023-02-24 20:31           ` Emily Shaffer
2023-02-24 21:41             ` Jeff King
2023-02-24 22:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-17 22:04   ` rsbecker
2023-02-17 22:48     ` brian m. carlson
2023-02-17 22:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-18  1:59   ` demerphq
2023-02-18 10:36     ` Phillip Wood
2023-03-23 23:22       ` Felipe Contreras
2023-03-23 23:30         ` rsbecker
2023-03-23 23:34           ` Felipe Contreras
2023-03-23 23:42             ` rsbecker
2023-03-23 23:55               ` Felipe Contreras
2023-03-24 19:27                 ` rsbecker
2023-03-24 21:21                   ` Felipe Contreras
2023-03-24 22:06                     ` rsbecker
2023-03-24 22:29                       ` Felipe Contreras
2023-02-21 21:42   ` Emily Shaffer
2023-02-22  0:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-02-18  4:05 ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-21 22:06   ` Emily Shaffer
2023-02-22  8:23     ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-22 19:25     ` Jeff King
2023-02-21 19:09 ` Taylor Blau [this message]
2023-02-21 22:27   ` Emily Shaffer
2023-02-22  1:44 ` Victoria Dye
2023-02-25  1:48   ` Jonathan Tan
2023-02-22 14:55 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-02-24 21:06   ` Emily Shaffer
2023-03-23 23:37 ` Felipe Contreras
2023-03-23 23:44   ` rsbecker

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