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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
Cc: Benoit SIGOURE <tsuna@lrde.epita.fr>,
	git list <git@vger.kernel.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Make Windows <make-w32@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Switching from CVS to GIT
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:39:07 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710141934310.25221@racer.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47125F74.9050600@op5.se>

Hi,

On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Andreas Ericsson wrote:

> Benoit SIGOURE wrote:
> > Context: GNU make seems to be willing to switch from CVS to ... something
> > else.
> > 
> > On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > [...] the big thing no one else seems to have addressed much in
> > > other discussions I've seen is portability.  It LOOKS like there are
> > > native ports of GIT to MINGW, but I have no idea how complete and usable
> > > they are.  If someone who has a Windows system could look into that it
> > > would be a big help.
> > 
> > I think the best thing to do is to ask directly on the Git ML.
> > 
> > Someone already pointed out that he'd like to use Git on Windows but 
> > doesn't want to install either Cygwin or MSYS.  Is this possible, or 
> > will it be possible in the near future?
> 
> It is sort of possible. Without cygwin he'll be in the black for the few 
> features that are still implemented as shell-scripts, but perhaps he/she 
> will then be inclined to help us migrate those scripts to C builtins.

Umm.  There are quite a few shell scripts still _necessary_ to run git: 
git-commit, git-fetch and git-merge being the most prominent ones.  The 
first two are in the process of being rewritten _right_ _now_, but no 
official git release has them yet.

And I have to disagree strongly with the "black": In msysGit (which brings 
its own minimal version of MSys), it is very smooth.

> >  Is it possible to use one of the various GUIs (git-gui, gitk, qgit) 
> > on Windows without requiring a POSIXish shell etc.?
> > 
> 
> qgit is possible to use natively, if one installs the qgit4 libraries 
> for windows, but it's more of a viewer than an action gui. git-gui and 
> gitk are usable if you have the windows TCL port. I haven't tried it, 
> but there are installers available, so testing it out (with all 
> dependencies) shouldn't take too long.

FWIW msysGit comes with Tcl.  You can run git gui and gitk without any 
hassles.

> > When will the librarification of Git be finished?
> 
> When someone gets around to doing it ;-)

There has been a GSoC project, and it has a nice small API which can be 
called from Python, for example.

Funnily enough, the first user is qgit as far as I know, which is written 
in C++...

> >  (if Git is available as a library, and if this library works on 
> > Windows, it will greatly help truly native Windows ports).
> 
> Yup. I believe the primary reason for libification is to easier support 
> both porting and fully-fledged gui's.

Why?

I do not see any reason why libification helps the user experience on 
Windows.

Ciao,
Dscho

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-14 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <uy7e6keyv.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <1192381040.4908.57.camel@homebase.localnet>
2007-10-14 17:10     ` Switching from CVS to GIT Benoit SIGOURE
2007-10-14 18:06       ` Marco Costalba
2007-10-14 18:20       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15  5:35         ` Martin Langhoff
2007-10-14 18:27       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 18:39         ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2007-10-14 19:09           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:14             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 22:14               ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-14 22:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-14 23:45                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15  0:36                     ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15  1:22                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15  1:24                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15  6:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  7:56                             ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15  8:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  8:47                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 11:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 12:31                                     ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 12:37                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 18:29                                         ` Paul Smith
2007-10-15  9:23                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 11:06                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  4:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  8:34                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15  9:02                             ` Benoit SIGOURE
2007-10-15 17:56                         ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 18:37                           ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 18:44                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:07                               ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 19:27                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 20:24                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-15 20:36                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:42                                 ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 19:48                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 19:58                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 21:06                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 20:05                                   ` Brian Dessent
2007-10-15 20:19                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 20:43                                       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 20:46                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16  2:24                                         ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-16  4:16                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 10:09                                             ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-16 12:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16  6:17                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-15 21:08                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 20:05                               ` Mark Watts
2007-10-15  4:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  5:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15  8:44                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15  8:56                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15  8:57                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 17:49                         ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 18:25                           ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15 18:34                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 19:34                             ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 17:53                     ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-14 23:55                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16  0:45                   ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16  4:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16  5:14                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16  6:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16  7:07                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16 12:29                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 12:38                             ` Peter Karlsson
2007-10-16 13:04                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:59                               ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 13:15                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:47                           ` Dave Korn
2007-10-16 15:56                           ` David Brown
2007-10-16 16:04                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-16 16:23                             ` Dave Korn
2007-10-16 18:06                               ` Christopher Faylor
2007-10-16 16:59                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-16  7:14                         ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 12:33                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 13:16                             ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 13:21                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 13:50                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 14:14                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 14:36                                     ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-16 15:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-17 19:33                               ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-10-16  5:56                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16  7:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 12:39                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 12:47                             ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16 13:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 13:24                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 15:18                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-16 15:43                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-16 17:04                             ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-16  6:06                       ` David Kastrup
2007-10-16  6:42                       ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16  7:17                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-14 22:59                 ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15  0:01                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-15 17:36                     ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15  0:03                   ` David Brown
2007-10-15  6:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-15 10:16                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-15 10:38                         ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 10:52                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-15 11:16                           ` Dave Korn
2007-10-15  0:46                 ` Michael Gebetsroither
2007-10-15 17:38                   ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-15 19:26                     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-15 19:30                       ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-16 11:13                 ` Peter Karlsson
2007-10-15  5:43             ` Martin Langhoff
2007-10-15  6:39       ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-15 23:12         ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16  6:10           ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16  6:21             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16  6:29               ` Johannes Sixt
2007-10-16 15:16             ` Johannes Schindelin

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