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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Initial subproject support (RFC?)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704100852550.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81b0412b0704100848n69c99f55xa7cc96087cad7e31@mail.gmail.com>



On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Alex Riesen wrote:
> 
> It is already "merged somewhere": as soon as the patches left landed
> on vger, it is not possible to loose (and even destroy) them.
> The feature is just too much sought after.

Well, unless it hits something like Junios 'pu' (or 'next') branch, or 
somebody (like you?) ends up maintaining a repo with this, it's just 
unnecessarily hard to have lots of people working together on it..

I'm obviously interested in working on it, but at the same time, I don't 
expect to be a primary *user* of it, so I'm hoping others will come in and 
start looking at it.

It looks promising that you're getting involved, but I suspect you may be 
a bit too optimistic when you say "just too much sought after". We've been 
*talking* about subprojects for a long long time, and we've had other 
patches fail. So...

> > For example, with just two smallish updates:
> >  - teach "git upload-pack" not to try to follow gitlinks
> >  - teach "git read-tree" to check out a git-link as just an empty
> >    subdirectory
> 
> which also should fix switching between the branches with subprojects.

Yes. It would require either git-read-tree or the git-checkout script 
around it knowing to then also check out the subproject branches.

It's actually not *entirely* obvious what you should do when you switch 
branches (or even just do a "git reset --hard") in the superproject. The 
branches in the subprojects are likely to be totally different from the 
superproject, so as far as I can see, you end up having two choices when 
you reset a subproject:

 - either basically create a "disconnected HEAD" in the subproject(s) when 
   you switch them around as a consequence of resetting/switching the 
   branch in the superproject.

 - or you'd stay on the same branch in the subproject, and just reset that 
   branch..

 - or you describe the branch name in the ".gitmodules" file in the
   superproject, and use whatever branch in the submodule that is 
   described in the supermodule that you reset/check-out.

 - or possibly other policies.

So there is bound to be various "policy" issues like this worth sorting 
out. I don't think they matter that deeply.

I would _personally_ tend to like the notion of using ".gitmodules" in the 
supermodule to describe things like this, exactly because it's a policy 
decision - not something that git itself should really decide about, but 
that the supermodule maintainers can just decide to agree on.

But I haven't really even thought about all the things I'd want to have in 
the .gitmodules. We'd obviously need to list the default URL's for the 
submodules some way etc, but I haven't really sat down and thought about 
what all the higher-level porcelain really would need to know.

I suspect that somebody who has used and set up CVS "modules" setups 
should be thinking about that. I've been a "stupid user" for CVS modules 
setups, but I've never actually needed to really know how they *work*.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-10 16:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-10  4:12 [PATCH 0/6] Initial subproject support (RFC?) Linus Torvalds
     [not found] ` <Pi ne.LNX.4.64.0704092115020.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-10  4:13 ` [PATCH 1/6] diff-lib: use ce_mode_from_stat() rather than messing with modes manually Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  4:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] Avoid overflowing name buffer in deep directory structures Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  4:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] Add 'resolve_gitlink_ref()' helper function Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  9:38   ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 14:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:35       ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 15:52         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:57           ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 16:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:54       ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10  4:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] Add "S_IFDIRLNK" file mode infrastructure for git links Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  4:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] Teach "fsck" not to follow subproject links Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 22:41   ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11 22:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 22:59       ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11 23:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:05           ` David Lang
2007-04-11 23:53             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:30               ` David Lang
2007-04-12  2:14                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  2:30                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12 17:18                   ` David Lang
2007-04-12 18:32                   ` Dana How
2007-04-12 19:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-13  9:00                       ` Rogan Dawes
2007-04-13 15:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-15  6:50                       ` Dana How
2007-04-12  0:00               ` Dana How
2007-04-12  0:03               ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-12  0:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12  1:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  2:00               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12  2:06                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-12  2:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:30         ` Dana How
2007-04-10  4:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] Teach core object handling functions about gitlinks Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  8:40   ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-04-10 11:31     ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 14:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 16:28   ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10 16:50     ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 17:23       ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10 18:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 19:04       ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-10 19:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 20:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 20:33             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  0:12               ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-12  0:35                 ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-12  2:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  3:56                   ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-10 19:41         ` David Lang
2007-04-10 20:06         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 19:29       ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10 19:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 23:47           ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-12  0:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-12  0:42       ` Torgil Svensson
2007-04-12  0:56         ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-12 21:23           ` Torgil Svensson
2007-04-11 23:36     ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11  8:06   ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  8:29     ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  8:36       ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  8:49         ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  9:20           ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  9:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-11 10:03           ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11 20:01             ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-11 22:19               ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11 22:36                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11  9:47     ` Andy Parkins
2007-04-11 11:31       ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11 15:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-11 22:49       ` Sam Vilain
2007-04-11 23:54       ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-12  1:57         ` Brian Gernhardt
2007-04-12 15:12         ` Josef Weidendorfer
2007-04-10  4:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] Initial subproject support (RFC?) Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 13:04   ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 15:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 15:48       ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 16:07         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-04-10 16:43           ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 19:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 20:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 20:52               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 21:02                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-04-10 21:27                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-10 21:03                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-04-15 23:21                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-11  8:08                 ` David Kågedal
2007-04-11  9:32                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-04-15 23:25                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-11  8:32     ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-11  8:42       ` Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  8:57         ` Martin Waitz
2007-04-10 13:39   ` [PATCH] allow git-update-index work on subprojects Alex Riesen
2007-04-10 23:19     ` [PATCH] Allow " Alex Riesen
2007-04-11  2:55       ` Junio C Hamano

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