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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: Ben Clifford <benc@hawaga.org.uk>
Cc: Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Handling large files with GIT
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 21:05:55 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602122058260.3691@g5.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602122049010.3691@g5.osdl.org>



On Sun, 12 Feb 2006, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> This is a large part of why git performs well on the kernel. Most merges 
> don't actually touch all - or even a very big percentage - of the over 
> thousand subdirectories in the kernel. Git can quickly see and ignore the 
> whole subdirectory when that happens - the SHA1 is exactly the same, so 
> git knows that every file under that subdirectory (and every recursive 
> directory) is the same.

Final note: this means, for example, that git is relatively bad at 
tracking a "hashed" nested file directory (like the one git itself uses), 
because new files will end up randomly appearing in every directory, and 
no directory is ever "stable".

In contrast, if the directory structure is - for example - something where 
you index files by date, and subdirectories with older dates are thus much 
more naturally likely to be quiescent, the "this tree is the same" 
optimizations work very well.

Basically, a lot of the git speed optimizations depend on "on average, 
things stay the same". We may have 18,000+ files in the kernel, but most 
patches will change maybe five of them. There's a lot of fairly static 
content and the changes have a certain level of "locality". It's normally 
a hundred-line patch to one file, not a hundred files that had one-liners. 
And when 20 files are changed, most of them tend to be in the same 
subdirectory, etc etc.

Taking advantage of those kinds of things is what makes git good at 
handling software projects. But it wouldn't necessarily be how you lay out 
a mail directory, for example. An automated file store might want to 
spread out the changes on purpose.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-13  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-08  9:14 Handling large files with GIT Martin Langhoff
2006-02-08 11:54 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-08 16:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-08 17:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-08 20:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-08 21:20 ` Florian Weimer
2006-02-08 22:35   ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-13  1:26     ` Ben Clifford
2006-02-13  3:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-13  4:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-13  5:05           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2006-02-13 23:17             ` Ian Molton
2006-02-13 23:19               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-14 18:56               ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-14 19:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-14 21:21                   ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-14 22:01                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-14 22:30                       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-15  0:40                         ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-15  1:39                           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-15  4:03                             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-15  2:07                           ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-15  2:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-15  2:18                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-15  2:33                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-15  3:58                               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-15  9:54                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-15 15:44                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-15 17:16                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-16  3:25                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-16  3:29                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-16 20:32                                 ` Fredrik Kuivinen
2006-02-13  5:55           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-13  6:07             ` Keith Packard
2006-02-14  0:07               ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-13 16:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-13  4:40       ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-09  4:54   ` Greg KH
2006-02-09  5:38     ` Martin Langhoff

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