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From: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dumb transports not being welcomed..
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:38:58 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0509141014580.30708@wgmdd8.biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0509131742240.26803@g5.osdl.org>

Hi,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > 
> > IMHO the culprit is git-rev-list, which takes ages and ages for big 
> > repositories (beware: this could be my Darwin client which might be 
> > incapable to stop the rev enumeration in time; but if that can be done 
> > unintentionally, this can be intentionally, too!).
> 
> Packed too?

Yes. Almost all of it.

> git-rev-list will take a long time if the tree is unpacked and not in the 
> cache. It's all disk seeks. That's _especially_ true of a full clone 
> (which will walk the whole way down).

That could be the case, but my test case is a CVS project I track on one 
side, and I fetch on the other side. Therefore, your diagram from your 
other mail does not really apply. My history looks more or less like this:

a b c d origin
          |
          |
          |
          |
\ \ \ \   |
 ---------|

So, the origin is a linear CVS project. With many, many, many commits. At 
one stage I broke off new git branches. I kept tracking the CVS project, 
though.

What I see when fetching all heads (thanks to Junio, this is one call to 
git-fetch now), where all but origin are up to date, is that it takes a 
very long time. Swapping kicks in, and top tells me that 26.6% of the 
memory is occupied by git-rev-list (The server has 128M, with 1G swap, and 
I am unfortunately not the only user of this machine).

I fail to see why it should need those amounts of memory. (I tested this 
over the ssh protocol, which should essentially do the same as git-daemon, 
right?) After all, the merge point between the branches should be marked 
uninteresting after one single step from each of my private branches.

> But I have tons of memory in my machines, and I haven't looked at how 
> badly it does if you don't have that. I know that master.kernel.org is 
> certainly not having any trouble at all with me pulling from lots of 
> trees.. Maybe git-rev-list uses up lots of your memory.

That certainly is the case.

As for master.kernel.org: Unfortunately, you will not be the only puller. 
And if your process needs just 5% of the RAM, then 21 pullers will be too 
many.

> That said, I do think that --objects handling is _very_ CPU-hungry.

In my experience, before the swapping started, the process did not get 
more than 20% CPU.

Nevertheless, I still think that it would be a good idea to reuse the 
files created for the dumb transport for the intelligent transport. 
Especially for a project which is more often fetched than uploaded.

I also see other strange things like packing 0 objects, and packing >0 
objects after just having fetched from that repository. Hopefully I will 
have time to look into that (and understand the code to begin with).

Ciao,
Dscho

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-14  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-13 21:07 dumb transports not being welcomed Junio C Hamano
2005-09-13 21:14 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-13 21:30   ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-13 21:42     ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-13 22:03     ` Horst von Brand
2005-09-13 22:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-13 22:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-13 22:21       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-13 22:29         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-14 13:21           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-13 22:29       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13 22:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-13 22:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-13 23:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-14  2:25               ` Kay Sievers
2005-09-14  3:32                 ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-14  0:01         ` Johannes Schindelin
2005-09-14  0:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-14  1:42             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-14  8:38             ` Johannes Schindelin [this message]
2005-09-14 15:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-15  9:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-14 10:45       ` Sven Verdoolaege
2005-09-14 16:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-14 14:10       ` Jon Loeliger
2005-09-14 19:00         ` Junio C Hamano
2005-09-14 19:13           ` Jon Loeliger

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