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From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: basics... when reading docs doesn't help
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:49:20 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0703302135590.10784@poirot.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0703301126390.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> You need to mark "refs/heads/origin" as always following the remote 
> "master", even if it gets re-based.  You do that by adding a "+" before 
> the refspec that describes the remote.
> 
> These days, with git-1.5.x, "git clone" will do that for you (and make the 
> remotes fall under "refs/remotes/origin/*" instead - they're considered 
> separate branches from the local branches these days). However, since you 
> created the repository with an older git version, it still uses the 
> original format (and even though you upgraded your git binary, it will use 
> the old-fashioned branch format for remote branches and for 
> configuration).
> 
> So in your case, the remote is probably described by the 
> .git/remotes/origin file, and it looks something like
> 
> 	URL: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulus/powerpc
> 	Pull: master:origin
> 
> and you should just change that "Pull:" line to have a "+" in front of the 
> refspec:
> 
> 	URL: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulus/powerpc
> 	Pull: +master:origin
> 
> which tells git that the remote "master" branch should now 
> *unconditionally* be followed into the local "origin" branch when you 
> pull.
> 
> (In a more modern setup, you wouldn't have a .git/remotes/origin file at 
> all, insead you would have something like this in the .git/config file:
> 
> 	[remote "origin"]
> 		url = git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulus/powerpc
> 		fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
> 
> 	[branch "master"]
> 		remote = origin
> 		merge = refs/heads/master
> 
> which means that there is a remote called "origin", and all of the remote 
> heads in that remote ("refs/heads/*") will be fetched into the local 
> repository under "refs/remotes/origin/*". And the "+" again means that we 
> do this even if it's not a fast-forward, ie we trust the remote 
> explicitly.
> 
> So "git fetch origin" will fetch *all* branches from "origin" into your 
> local repository, but to distinguish them from your *own* branches, they 
> will be under .git/refs/remotes/ instead of your "real" local branches 
> that are in ".git/refs/heads/. So you can now see the difference between 
> your *local* version of a branch X and the remote version of that same 
> branch by using "X" and "remotes/origin/X" respectively to describe that 
> branch.
> 
> Then, the second part of the above config file means that when you're on 
> the local "master" branch and do a "git pull", it will fetch it from the 
> remote "origin", and merge the remote "refs/heads/master" branch from that 
> remote (the same one that will be fetched into refs/remotes/origin/master 
> by a "git fetch".
> 
> Yeah, this is all a bit complex, and it takes a while to wrap your head 
> around it, but I have to say, once you do, the git-1.5.x layout really 
> *is* very powerful, and it's actually very natural too (but the "very 
> natural" part only comes after you have that "Aaahh!" moment!)

Aha, so, that's how it is then! Why hasn't anybody explained this to me 
strait away?!:-))))

Yeah, hopefully, I'll learn to at least use this thing efficiently enough. 
Someone has to write a book on it though...

And, so, it's a pity I cloned Paul's tree yesterday with the "old" git. 
And from your answer above it seems like some features of the "new" git 
will not be available with this tree, like equally named local and remote 
branches, etc. There isn't a way to convert such a "old style" tree to the 
"new style", is there? Not a big deal, will re-clone at some point, maybe 
when we get local git mirrors...

Many thanks for taking your time to answer, Linus!
Guennadi
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Guennadi Liakhovetski

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-30 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-29 20:50 basics... when reading docs doesn't help Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-29 21:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-03-29 21:26   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-29 21:46     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-03-29 22:13       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-29 22:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-30 18:16           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-30 18:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-30 19:49               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2007-03-30 20:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-30 20:23                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-30 20:39                 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-03-30 21:11                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-30  2:43         ` Theodore Tso
2007-03-30 14:49           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-03-30 18:02         ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-03-30 18:24           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-29 22:27   ` Matthieu Moy

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