From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: dumb transports not being welcomed.. Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <7vek7s1xsh.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <20050913211444.GA27029@mars.ravnborg.org> <7vacig1wrb.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> <7vpsrcwrc1.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Sam Ravnborg , git@vger.kernel.org X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Sep 14 00:38:00 2005 Return-path: Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFJHe-0006UD-FZ for gcvg-git@gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:29:46 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932482AbVIMW3o (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:29:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932544AbVIMW3o (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:29:44 -0400 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:64930 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932482AbVIMW3n (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:29:43 -0400 Received: from shell0.pdx.osdl.net (fw.osdl.org [65.172.181.6]) by smtp.osdl.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j8DMTaBo026088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:29:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (shell0.pdx.osdl.net [10.9.0.31]) by shell0.pdx.osdl.net (8.13.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j8DMTZAm029864; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:29:36 -0700 To: Junio C Hamano In-Reply-To: <7vpsrcwrc1.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5 tests= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-osdl_revision__1.45__ X-MIMEDefang-Filter: osdl$Revision: 1.115 $ X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.36 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > I need to clarify what I meant by 'not welcoming dumb transport' > a bit better. Namely, those (~80 - 23) = ~57 repositories lack > support for 'git ls-remote' over http, which means you cannot > discover what refs the repository has. You do realize that up until a week ago (six days, to be exact), kernel.org was running git-0.99.4, which I don't think actually implemented any of the info stuff? So out of the 57 repositories, how many haven't been updated in a week? I suspect that explains a large portion of it. Also, I really do think that the dumb transports are oversold, and git-daemon is undersold. I know all about firewalls, but I also think that if people used the smart protocols more, that's a problem that would largely solve itself. Dumb protocols can never do really well. That's just very fundamental. Linus