From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Mike Taht <mike.taht@timesys.com>,
Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>,
Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "git-send-pack"
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:16:46 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0507021009580.3019@ppc970.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42C61818.30109@zytor.com>
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>
> It's a log.
..but that's not what we're looking for. I'm not looking for kernel.org to
be my distributed backup tape.
For it to be useful, it must do more than just log all activity and mirror
it out via rsync. It must also be usable for people pulling on it. Which
means that it has to be a valid git archive or at least easily
incrementally unpackable, so that people can actually use the end result.
A log of packs that are just incremented is certainly unpackable: you
teach git-unpack-objects to just unpack several packs after each other.
But since it's not seekable, you'd have to unpack a 100MB compressed
archive just to get the last tip of it that you don't have unpacked yet.
Also, it means that it's impossible to efficiently do a git-specific
thing. I want people to be able to do what we used to be able to do with
BK: just do a
git pull master.kernel.org:xxxx
and get something useful. And that means _not_ having to pull a 100MB blob
to get the last objects at the end.
And don't tell me "rsync can efficiently get just the end". That's true
for _mirrors_, but it's not true for users that don't have every single
archive on kernel.org. I don't have (and I don't want to have) a copy of
every single persons log that ever might want to push to me.
So no, a log simply isn't useful. It _has_ to be a valid git archive to be
useful. Thousands of objects satisfy that. Or a "few packs + few objects".
Not a log.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-07-02 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-30 17:54 "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 18:24 ` "git-send-pack" A Large Angry SCM
2005-06-30 18:27 ` "git-send-pack" A Large Angry SCM
2005-06-30 19:04 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 18:45 ` "git-send-pack" Jan Harkes
2005-06-30 19:01 ` "git-send-pack" Mike Taht
2005-06-30 19:42 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-07-01 9:50 ` "git-send-pack" Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-30 19:44 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 20:38 ` "git-send-pack" Junio C Hamano
2005-06-30 21:05 ` "git-send-pack" Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-30 21:29 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 21:55 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-06-30 22:26 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 23:40 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 0:02 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-07-01 1:24 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 23:44 ` "git-send-pack" Mike Taht
2005-07-02 0:07 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 1:56 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-07-02 4:08 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 4:22 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-07-02 4:29 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2005-07-02 17:37 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 17:44 ` "git-send-pack" Tony Luck
2005-07-02 17:48 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 18:12 ` "git-send-pack" A Large Angry SCM
2005-06-30 22:25 ` "git-send-pack" Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-30 23:56 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-07-01 5:01 ` "git-send-pack" Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-30 21:08 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 21:10 ` "git-send-pack" Dan Holmsand
2005-06-30 19:49 ` "git-send-pack" Daniel Barkalow
2005-06-30 20:12 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 20:23 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-06-30 20:52 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 21:23 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-06-30 21:26 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-06-30 21:42 ` "git-send-pack" Linus Torvalds
2005-06-30 22:00 ` "git-send-pack" H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 10:31 ` "git-send-pack" Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-01 14:43 ` "git-send-pack" Jan Harkes
2005-07-01 13:56 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-01 16:37 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 22:38 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-01 22:44 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 23:07 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-01 23:22 ` Tags Daniel Barkalow
2005-07-02 0:06 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 7:00 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 17:47 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 17:54 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 17:58 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 18:31 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 19:55 ` Tags Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-02 21:16 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 21:39 ` Tags Linus Torvalds
2005-07-02 21:42 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-02 22:02 ` Tags A Large Angry SCM
2005-07-02 22:20 ` Tags Linus Torvalds
2005-07-02 23:49 ` Tags A Large Angry SCM
2005-07-03 0:17 ` Tags Linus Torvalds
2005-07-02 22:14 ` Tags Petr Baudis
2005-07-02 22:17 ` Tags Linus Torvalds
2005-07-03 0:04 ` Tags Dan Holmsand
2005-07-03 22:34 ` Tags Kevin Smith
2005-07-05 13:04 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-05 16:21 ` Tags Daniel Barkalow
2005-07-05 17:51 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-05 18:33 ` Tags Linus Torvalds
2005-07-05 19:22 ` Tags Junio C Hamano
2005-07-06 18:04 ` Tags Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-07 3:31 ` Tags Eric W. Biederman
2005-07-02 18:45 ` Tags Linus Torvalds
2005-07-02 20:38 ` Tags Jan Harkes
2005-07-02 22:32 ` Tags Jan Harkes
2005-07-02 16:00 ` Tags Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-01 18:09 ` Tags Petr Baudis
2005-07-01 18:37 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 21:20 ` Tags Matthias Urlichs
2005-07-01 21:42 ` Tags Petr Baudis
2005-07-01 21:52 ` Tags H. Peter Anvin
2005-07-01 22:27 ` Tags Daniel Barkalow
2005-07-01 22:59 ` Tags Petr Baudis
2005-06-30 20:49 ` "git-send-pack" Daniel Barkalow
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