From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ann T Ropea" <bedhanger@gmx.de>,
"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Daniel Barkalow" <barkalow@iabervon.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] Testing: provide tests requiring them with ellipses after SHA-1 values
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 23:41:35 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <FDCFD8EC7A754412A6369F03E91926C5@PhilipOakley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: xmqqo9nuuadm.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com
From: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
> "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org> writes:
>
>> From: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
>>> Ann T Ropea <bedhanger@gmx.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> *1* We are being overly generous in t4013-diff-various.sh because we do
>>>> not want to destroy/take apart the here-document. Given that all this
>>>> a
>>>> temporary measure, we should get away with it.
>>
>> So, the need to reformat the test for the future post-deprecation
>> period is being deferred to the time that the PRINT_SHA1_ELLIPSIS env
>> variable, and all ellipis, is removed - is that the case? Maybe it
>> just needs saying plainly.
>
> And if we say it that way, it is clear that with this series, we are
> shipping a new feature with a test that does not protect the output
> format we claim to be the improved and preferred one. That sounds
> quite bad.
>
> Having said that, I have already queued this to 'pu' and I do not
> terribly mind to merge it down to 'next', leaving the test updates
> to cover the new output format as well as the backward compatible
> one at the same time for a later follow-up patch.
I'd agree. I just wanted to ensure that I had the right understanding.
>
> I'd however hate it if I have to carry the topic in the current
> shape in 'next' forever, waiting for such an update to come, that
> may never materialize, and be forced to do it myself without being
> explicitly asked by (and thanked for) anybody, especially because
> this is not exactly my itch X-<.
True.
>
>> Or is the env variable being retained as a fallback 'forever'? I'm
>> half guessing that it may tend toward the latter as it's an easier
>> backward compatibility decision.
>
> We do not know until this change is released to the wild, at which
> time we will hear noises about the lack of expected ellipses their
> (poorly written) scripts rely on and tell them to set the workaround
> environment variable. We may not hear from such people at all, in
> which case we may be able to remove it within a year or so, but it
> is too early to tell.
I was wondering if there should be a small documentation change for the env
variable and states that it is a temporary measure for short term
compatibility. Though I'm not sure where the 'right' place would be for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-22 23:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-05 16:27 [PATCH 1/3] checkout: describe_detached_head: remove 3dots after committish Ann T Ropea
2017-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] Documentation: user-manual: limit potentially confusing usage of 3dots (and 2dots) Ann T Ropea
2017-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] Documentation: revisions: add note about 3dots usages as continuation indications Ann T Ropea
2017-11-06 4:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-06 2:45 ` [PATCH 1/3] checkout: describe_detached_head: remove 3dots after committish Junio C Hamano
2017-11-07 0:30 ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-07 0:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-07 2:53 ` Ann T Ropea
2017-11-07 23:25 ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-08 1:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-09 23:15 ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-13 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] config: introduce core.printsha1ellipsis Ann T Ropea
2017-11-13 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] checkout: describe_detached_head: remove ellipsis after committish Ann T Ropea
2017-11-13 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] diff: diff_aligned_abbrev: remove ellipsis after abbreviated SHA-1 value Ann T Ropea
2017-11-14 3:08 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-19 17:38 ` Ann T Ropea
2017-11-20 1:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-19 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] checkout: describe_detached_head: remove ellipsis after committish Ann T Ropea
2017-11-20 3:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-19 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] diff: diff_aligned_abbrev: remove ellipsis after abbreviated SHA-1 value Ann T Ropea
2017-11-19 19:11 ` Eric Sunshine
2017-11-19 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] Documentation: user-manual: limit usage of ellipsis Ann T Ropea
2017-11-19 19:15 ` Eric Sunshine
2017-11-24 23:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] diff: diff_aligned_abbrev: remove ellipsis after abbreviated SHA-1 value Ann T Ropea
2017-11-25 5:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-26 3:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-26 3:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-26 3:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] Documentation: revisions: fix typo: "three dot" ---> "three-dot" (in line with "two-dot") Ann T Ropea
2017-12-04 16:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] Documentation: user-manual: limit usage of ellipsis Ann T Ropea
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] print_sha1_ellipsis: introduce helper Ann T Ropea
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] checkout: describe_detached_head: remove ellipsis after committish Ann T Ropea
2017-12-04 16:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-04 23:13 ` [PATCH v6 " Ann T Ropea
2017-12-05 16:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-06 0:20 ` [PATCH v7 " Ann T Ropea
2017-12-06 16:47 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-06 22:02 ` Ann T Ropea
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] t4013: prepare for upcoming "diff --raw --abbrev" output format change Ann T Ropea
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] diff: diff_aligned_abbrev: remove ellipsis after abbreviated SHA-1 value Ann T Ropea
2017-12-03 21:27 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] t4013: test new output from diff --abbrev --raw Ann T Ropea
2017-11-24 23:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] checkout: describe_detached_head: remove ellipsis after committish Ann T Ropea
2017-11-24 23:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] Documentation: user-manual: limit usage of ellipsis Ann T Ropea
2017-11-24 23:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] Documentation: revisions: fix typo: "three dot" ---> "three-dot" (in line with "two-dot") Ann T Ropea
2017-11-24 23:53 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] Documentation: git: document GIT_PRINT_SHA1_ELLIPSIS Ann T Ropea
2017-11-24 23:53 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] Testing: provide existing tests requiring them with ellipses after SHA-1 values Ann T Ropea
2017-11-19 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] Documentation: revisions: fix typo: "three dot" ---> "three-dot" (in line with "two-dot") Ann T Ropea
2017-11-19 18:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] Testing: provide tests requiring them with ellipses after SHA-1 values Ann T Ropea
2017-11-20 4:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-20 12:25 ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-22 5:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-22 23:41 ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2017-11-24 0:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-13 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] Documentation: user-manual: limit usage of ellipsis Ann T Ropea
2017-11-13 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] Documentation: revisions: fix typo: "three dot" ---> "three-dot" (in line with "two-dot") Ann T Ropea
2017-11-13 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Testing: provide tests requiring them with ellipses after SHA-1 values Ann T Ropea
2017-11-14 3:20 ` Junio C Hamano
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