From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Philip Oakley" Subject: Re: Workflow for templates? Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:44:53 -0000 Organization: OPDS Message-ID: References: <7f1bbe94-b3f6-4728-960d-19e89e8e4166@zcs> Reply-To: "Philip Oakley" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Git List" , "Josef Wolf" To: "Enrico Weigelt" X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sat Nov 10 14:44:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TXBMf-00051E-OM for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:44:50 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751435Ab2KJNog (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:44:36 -0500 Received: from out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.241]:63672 "EHLO out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751113Ab2KJNof (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:44:35 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArANAFRZnlBcHm+W/2dsb2JhbABEhhmFP7Z4AQECgQCBCYIZBQEBBAEIAQEZFR4BARUMCwIDBQIBAxUBBAIFIQICFAEEGgYHFwYKCQgCAQIDAYdzCqoxkjqBIopzCkYxHDWDZTJhA410mEqCbw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,751,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="399361224" Received: from host-92-30-111-150.as13285.net (HELO PhilipOakley) ([92.30.111.150]) by out1.ip05ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 10 Nov 2012 13:44:34 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: From: "Enrico Weigelt" Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 10:29 AM >> This is often the key point that requires the 'new mindset'. Most >> folk >> use/used the directory heirarchy (subtle distinction with the .git >> 'repo' directory heirarchy to be noted) as a way of separating >> ownership >> between groups. They find it very hard to undo the old mindset and >> use >> branches _instead of_ directories for the different group >> configurations. > > hmm, is this really a psychological issue ? Oh absolutely. It is very very hard to unlearn stuff, especially bad habits that have had to become ingrained to make them work adequately! It's like re-learning an alternative to a well loved mnemonic. "CLAP". > > well, many years ago, i've seen a talk about git (maybe by linus > himself), > which started with something like "forget everything you know abozt > scm" ... Most folk don't know why the old way used to be right, and is now so wrong, so they can't rationalize the change. Hence find the change very difficult. [Other than git..] Current SCM methods were established before the Titanic sank and are based on drawing office practice, and were transfered and applied to code printouts (which are simply machining instructions to a compiler). The modern zero cost replication of "Master" drawings/code printouts has destroyed the original reasons for the old practices (protect the aluable unique master). Similarly the new paradigm of "how can I verify that this is a proper copy of the master" isn't understood. Definately a psychological issue when your whole world is being turned upside down ;-)