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From: Chris Torek <chris.torek@gmail.com>
To: Martin <git@mfriebe.de>
Cc: Git List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Files modified, even after: git reset --hard
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 15:03:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPx1Gvey1uSr58Uf7VpC0c6J+R0tUP=VUP_dGmv_yVO-CwmvXg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67f35be7-3317-6486-cdb6-62eb691eaf10@mfriebe.de>

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:57 PM Martin <git@mfriebe.de> wrote:
> Is it possible that those cheats also look at the "replaced" (rather
> than the "replacement") commit(s)?

They look at `stat` system call (well, `lstat` *call*) data, not the
actual files.  This works better on Unix systems, where `lstat` is
a real system call, than it does on Windows, where it's faked up
from whatever Windows really stores as information about files.

> I am pretty sure I have "git replace"d all blobs for some of the files,
> and yet they do get phantoms.

The stat data are stored in Git's index.  It's the rebuilding of various
index entries that updates what Git uses to do a fast check of file
status.  (Note that the stat data on the index itself count as part of
the cheating; this gets tricky.  See [1].)

There is an article at [2] on how Windows implements `stat`. It's
probably out of date (says "VS2005").  It's interesting to me what's
wrong here: `st_dev` is made to mirror `st_rdev` but `st_dev` should
probably always just be zero, and they chose to attempt to store a
file *creation* time in `st_ctime`, when that is in `st_birthtime` in a
modern Unix-like system: the `ctime` field is the *inode change time*,
not a file creation time.  (Fortunately Git uses neither field.)

Chris

[1]: https://git-scm.com/docs/racy-git/en
[2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20101214222704/http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/14h5k7ff(v=vs.80).aspx

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-26 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-25 15:04 Files modified, even after: git reset --hard Martin
2021-07-25 15:40 ` Martin
2021-07-25 17:48   ` Martin
2021-07-25 18:39     ` Martin
2021-07-26  0:33       ` Chris Torek
2021-07-26  1:34         ` Martin
2021-07-26  2:59           ` Chris Torek
2021-07-26 10:31             ` Martin
2021-07-26 11:11               ` Chris Torek
2021-07-26 13:57               ` Martin
2021-07-26 18:21                 ` Philip Oakley
2021-07-26 19:57             ` Martin
2021-07-26 22:03               ` Chris Torek [this message]
2021-07-27  0:55                 ` Martin
2021-07-26 10:39           ` Philip Oakley
2021-07-26 12:50             ` Martin

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