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From: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Thomas Gummerer <t.gummerer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] checkout & worktree: introduce a core.DWIMRemote setting
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 14:00:08 -0400
Message-ID: <CAPig+cTZyYC-1_TxL2PrfOF6HAktUxxM+g5EXcByS5fCDMdCHg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8Ae9PP8BMbyX5mPJukGpC06jMvvbg0fMFL+fu+EUg1kPw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
> <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Introduce a core.DWIMRemote setting which can be used to designate a
>> remote to prefer (via core.DWIMRemote=origin) when running e.g. "git
>> checkout master" to mean origin/master, even though there's other
>> remotes that have the "master" branch.
>
> Do we anticipate more dwimy customizations to justify a new dwim group
> in config (i.e. dwim.remote instead of core.dwimRemote)?

A few observations:

1. DWIM has broad meaning; while this certainly falls within DWIM,
it's also just a _default_, so should this instead be named
"defaultRemote"?

2. Building on #1: How well is the term "DWIM" understood by non-power
users? A term, such as "default" is more well known.

3. git-worktree learned --guess-remote and worktree.guessRemote in [1]
and [2], which, on the surface, sound confusingly similar to
"DWIMRemote". Even though I was well involved in the discussion and
repeatedly reviewed the patch series which introduced those, it still
took me an embarrassingly long time, and repeated re-reads of all
commit messages involved, to grasp (or re-grasp) how "guess remote"
and "DWIM remote" differ. If it was that difficult for me, as a person
involved in the patch series, to figure out "guess remote" vs. "DWIM
remote", then I worry that it may be too confusing in general. If the
new config option had been named "defaultRemote", I don't think I'd
have been confused at all.

It may sound as if I'm advocating the name "defaultRemote", but that
wasn't the intention, and I'm not wedded to it; that name simply fell
out naturally as I enumerated the above observations.

[1]: 71d6682d8c (worktree: add --guess-remote flag to add subcommand,
2017-11-29)
[2]: e92445a731 (add worktree.guessRemote config option, 2017-11-29)

  reply index

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-02 10:54 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-02 15:21 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-02 18:00   ` Eric Sunshine [this message]
2018-05-02 18:09     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-02 18:25     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-03 13:18       ` [PATCH v2] checkout & worktree: introduce checkout.implicitRemote Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-03 15:14         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-04  7:54           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-04 14:58             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-04 18:02               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-04  9:58         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-05-24 19:47           ` [PATCH v3] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-25  8:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-25 14:42               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-25 18:38                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-26 12:49                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-31  7:45             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 0/9] ambiguous checkout UI & checkout.defaultRemote Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 1/8] checkout tests: index should be clean after dwim checkout Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 15:45                       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-07-27 17:48                         ` [PATCH] tests: make use of the test_must_be_empty function Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-27 21:50                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-31  0:17                           ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-08-22 17:48                           ` [PATCH] t6018-rev-list-glob: fix 'empty stdin' test SZEDER Gábor
2018-08-22 17:53                             ` Eric Sunshine
2018-08-22 18:59                               ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-08-22 20:30                                 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-08-22 18:01                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-22 18:50                             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-22 19:23                               ` Jeff King
2018-08-22 19:50                                 ` [PATCH] rev-list: make empty --stdin not an error Jeff King
2018-08-22 20:42                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-22 21:37                                     ` Jeff King
2018-08-22 21:50                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-08-22 21:55                                         ` Jeff King
2018-08-22 21:41                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 2/8] checkout.h: wrap the arguments to unique_tracking_name() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 3/8] checkout.c: introduce an *_INIT macro Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 4/8] checkout.c: change "unique" member to "num_matches" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 5/8] checkout: pass the "num_matches" up to callers Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 6/8] builtin/checkout.c: use "ret" variable for return Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 7/8] checkout: add advice for ambiguous "checkout <branch>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-05 14:40                     ` [PATCH v7 8/8] checkout & worktree: introduce checkout.defaultRemote Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 1/8] checkout tests: index should be clean after dwim checkout Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 2/8] checkout.h: wrap the arguments to unique_tracking_name() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 3/8] checkout.c: introduce an *_INIT macro Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 4/8] checkout.c]: change "unique" member to "num_matches" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 5/8] checkout: pass the "num_matches" up to callers Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 6/8] builtin/checkout.c: use "ret" variable for return Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 7/8] checkout: add advice for ambiguous "checkout <branch>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-02 11:50                   ` [PATCH v6 8/8] checkout & worktree: introduce checkout.defaultRemote Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-03  7:58                     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] checkout tests: index should be clean after dwim checkout Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] checkout.h: wrap the arguments to unique_tracking_name() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] checkout.[ch]: introduce an *_INIT macro Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 22:40                   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] checkout.[ch]: change "unique" member to "num_matches" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 22:41                   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] checkout: pass the "num_matches" up to callers Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] builtin/checkout.c: use "ret" variable for return Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] checkout: add advice for ambiguous "checkout <branch>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01 22:52                   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-06-01 21:10                 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] checkout & worktree: introduce checkout.defaultRemote Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 1/9] checkout tests: index should be clean after dwim checkout Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01  4:06                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-01 19:43                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 2/9] checkout.h: wrap the arguments to unique_tracking_name() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 3/9] checkout.[ch]: move struct declaration into *.h Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 21:45                 ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-06-01  2:14                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-01  9:56                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 4/9] checkout.[ch]: introduce an *_INIT macro Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01  4:16                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 5/9] checkout.[ch]: change "unique" member to "num_matches" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 6/9] checkout: pass the "num_matches" up to callers Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 7/9] builtin/checkout.c: use "ret" variable for return Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 8/9] checkout: add advice for ambiguous "checkout <branch>" Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01  4:32                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-01  5:11                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-01  9:54                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-04  1:58                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-01  9:50                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-01  7:53                 ` Eric Sunshine
2018-06-01 19:59                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 19:52               ` [PATCH v4 9/9] checkout & worktree: introduce checkout.defaultRemote Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 21:49                 ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-01  8:04                   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-06-01  9:47                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-05-31 22:22                 ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-06-01  2:17                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-04  7:14       ` [PATCH] checkout & worktree: introduce a core.DWIMRemote setting Eric Sunshine
2018-05-04  7:23         ` Eric Sunshine

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