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From: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>, James Liu <james@jamesliu.io>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re* [PATCH v4 0/3] advice: add "all" option to disable all hints
Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 17:24:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPig+cT-xk13jGEUmpT5QmwVYTxKNUZsu9xJ=Ph3h4AzKHg6pA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq4jbe64l9.fsf@gitster.g>

On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 4:08 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> It seems that Dscho was in agreement that format-patch's use case
> should try to be more aggressive at least back then.  In the message
> in the thread you pointed
>
>  https://lore.kernel.org/git/nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1903211209280.41@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet/
>
> he does not give us the exact reason why he does not think the "more
> aggressive" mode is not suitable for other use cases, though.

Having an answer to that question could be helpful.

> A similar thread was raised more recently:
>
>  https://lore.kernel.org/git/rq6919s9-qspp-rn6o-n704-r0400q10747r@tzk.qr/

I think I missed this thread.

> Also, there was an attempt to clarify what the "factor" really
> meant, but we did not get a real conclusion other than the UNIT to
> measure the "factor" is called "percent" (without specifying what
> 100% is relative to, "percent" does not mean much to guide users
> to guess what the right value would be).
>
>  https://lore.kernel.org/git/85snn12q-po05-osqs-n1o0-n6040392q01q@tzk.qr/

I recall this discussion, as well as its followup (in which I
proclaimed my continuing lack of understanding of what creation-factor
really represents):

https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAPig+cRp4N=6EktoisKAH09aVAPkPgZfHJYcB5pJFJ-CUpBHFA@mail.gmail.com/

> So, yes, --creation-factor=<value> is messy, I think a very high
> value, much higher than the hardcoded default of 60, is more
> appropriate for use in format-patch, but we do not know what bad
> effect it would have if we used much higher default everywhere.

At this point in time, I'm not particularly against giving `git
format-patch` its own default creation-factor.

My only worry (and perhaps it's very minor) is that separate default
creation-factors for `git range-diff` and `git format-patch
--range-diff` could catch the unwary off-guard when invoking `git
range-diff` to manually check the difference between an old an new
version of a series before finally invoking `git format-patch
--range-diff` to actually create the patches for sending. (I've done
this myself on a very few occasions, but perhaps not often enough to
warrant the concern(?).)


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-03 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-24  3:58 [PATCH 0/2] advice: add "all" option to disable all hints James Liu
2024-04-24  3:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] advice: allow advice type to be provided in tests James Liu
2024-04-24  5:28   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-24  3:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] advice: add "all" option to disable all hints James Liu
2024-04-24  5:29   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-24  6:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Junio C Hamano
2024-04-24  6:48   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-24 13:52     ` Phillip Wood
2024-04-24 14:07       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-24 14:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-25  6:46           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-25 16:18             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-24 16:14         ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-24 16:21           ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-24 14:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-25  6:42       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-24  7:37   ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-29  1:09 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] advice: add --no-advice global option James Liu
2024-04-29  1:09   ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " James Liu
2024-04-29  4:15     ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-29  5:01       ` James Liu
2024-04-29  5:36         ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-29  5:59           ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-29  6:04             ` Eric Sunshine
2024-04-29  6:12               ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-29  6:40         ` Jeff King
2024-04-29  6:55           ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-29 13:50           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-30  0:56           ` James Liu
2024-04-29 13:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-29 17:05     ` Rubén Justo
2024-04-29 17:54       ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-30  1:47   ` [PATCH v3 0/1] " James Liu
2024-04-30  1:47     ` [PATCH v3 1/1] " James Liu
2024-04-30  5:18       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-04-30  6:24         ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-30 16:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03  7:17     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] advice: add "all" option to disable all hints James Liu
2024-05-03  7:17       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] doc: clean up usage documentation for --no-* opts James Liu
2024-05-03 17:30         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06  1:39           ` James Liu
2024-05-03  7:17       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] doc: add spacing around paginate options James Liu
2024-05-03 14:32         ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-03 17:36           ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03  7:17       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] advice: add --no-advice global option James Liu
2024-05-08  0:40         ` [PATCH v4 4/3] t0018: two small fixes Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03  7:31       ` [PATCH v4 0/3] advice: add "all" option to disable all hints Dragan Simic
2024-05-03 18:00         ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 19:26           ` Eric Sunshine
2024-05-03 19:48             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 20:08               ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 21:24                 ` Eric Sunshine [this message]
2024-05-05 11:03                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2024-05-06 16:40                     ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2024-05-07  0:11                       ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-07  0:21                         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-07  4:45                           ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-07  0:01                   ` Dragan Simic
2024-05-03 14:35       ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-05 23:17         ` James Liu
2024-05-03 17:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-05 23:20         ` James Liu
2024-05-06  1:10           ` James Liu
2024-05-06 16:47             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-06 23:08               ` James Liu
2024-05-07  6:23                 ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-06 16:41           ` Junio C Hamano

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