From: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: "Lénaïc Huard" <lenaic@lhuard.fr>,
"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
"Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
"Đoàn Trần Công Danh" <congdanhqx@gmail.com>,
"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
"Phillip Wood" <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
"Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>,
"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
"brian m . carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>`
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 00:11:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPig+cSCWHh9eKs2Wj3N8OBJ5LzQk=4sCEu6=s0aR76nmo8H5g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c4366e4-a891-0a3a-2534-af48ab0097c2@gmail.com>
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 8:48 PM Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/14/2021 12:36 AM, Eric Sunshine wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 12:51 PM Lénaïc Huard <lenaic@lhuard.fr> wrote:
> > The above description is somewhat redundant. Another way to write it
> > without the redundancy might be:
> >
> > Specify the scheduler -- in combination with subcommand `start` --
>
> I think this change to the start is not contributing to the drop
> in redundancy, but _does_ break from the pattern of previous
> options. These start with "When combined with the `X` subcommand"
> to clarify when they can be used.
>
> I'm not against improving that pattern. I'm just saying that we
> should do it across the whole file if we do it at all.
Indeed, it's not a big deal. As mentioned in my review, all my
comments were subjective, and none of them should prevent this from
being accepted as-is if everyone is happy with it.
> > for running the hourly, daily and weekly invocations of `git
> > maintenance run`. Possible values for `<scheduler>` are `auto`,
> > `crontab` (POSIX), `launchctl` (macOS), and `schtasks` (Windows).
> > When `auto` is specified, the appropriate platform-specific
> > scheduler is used. Default is `auto`.
>
> I find this to be a good way to reorganize the paragraph to be
> very clear. How do you propose adding `systemd-timer` in the next
> patch? Is it simply adding "`systemd-timer (Linux)`" or do we
> need to be more careful using "(when available)"? Unlike the others,
> the availability of that option is not as cut-and-dry.
It should be easy enough. For instance:
Possible values for `<scheduler>` are `auto`, `crontab` (POSIX),
`systemd-timer` (Linux), `launchctl` (macOS), and `schtasks`
(Windows). When `auto` is specified, the appropriate platform-
specific scheduler is used; on Linux, `systemd-timer` is used if
available, otherwise `crontab`. Default is `auto`.
But this sort of minor rewrite can always be done later.
> > I don't see `auto` being tested anywhere. Do we want such a test? (It
> > seems like it should be doable, though perhaps the complexity is too
> > high -- I haven't thought it through fully.)
>
> Unfortunately, `auto` seems to live in a world where we need to
> actually run commands such as crontab and systemctl to determine
> if they are available, but that happens only when
> GIT_TEST_MAINT_SCHEDULER is unset. But, we don't want to actually
> edit the timing information for the test runner, so some other
> abstraction needs to be inserted at the proper layer.
>
> It's worth a shot, but I expect it to be challenging to get right.
I imagine that it can be mocked up with GIT_TEST_MAINT_SCHEDULER in
some fashion, but it's not worth holding up this series or expecting a
re-roll for that one little question which popped out of my brain.
As I mentioned in my review, my comments were subjective, and I think
the series is in a state in which it can be accepted as-is without
additional re-rolls[1] if everyone is happy with it.
[1]: Except for the one question I asked about is_crontab_available();
I don't understand that one bit of logic, thus can't tell if the
behavior makes sense or not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-17 4:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-01 14:52 [PATCH] maintenance: use systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-01 20:02 ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-02 5:28 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-02 6:49 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-02 6:45 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-02 14:10 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-05 12:19 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-05 14:57 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-05 12:01 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-09 22:34 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-10 13:03 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-02 11:12 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-03 12:04 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-09 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-09 21:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-10 1:20 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-10 2:48 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-10 6:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-12 0:29 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-12 6:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 13:26 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-12 13:38 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-12 15:41 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-10 18:03 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-10 18:25 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-10 20:09 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-10 20:52 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-06-08 14:55 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-10 19:15 ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-11 14:50 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-11 17:31 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] cache.h: rename "xdg_config_home" to "xdg_config_home_git" Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-20 23:44 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] maintenance: introduce ENABLE/DISABLE for code clarity Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-21 9:52 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] maintenance: optionally use systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-21 9:59 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-21 16:59 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-22 6:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-05-23 18:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-23 23:27 ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-24 1:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-24 7:03 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24 15:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-25 1:50 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-05-25 11:13 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-26 10:29 ` CoC, inclusivity etc. (was "Re: [...] systemd timers on Linux") Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-26 16:05 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-27 14:24 ` Jeff King
2021-05-27 17:30 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-27 23:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-28 14:44 ` Phillip Susi
2021-05-30 21:58 ` Jeff King
2021-05-24 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] maintenance: optionally use systemd timers on Linux Felipe Contreras
2021-05-24 7:15 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] add support for " Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-24 7:15 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-24 9:33 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-24 12:23 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-24 7:15 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] maintenance: introduce ENABLE/DISABLE for code clarity Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-24 9:41 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-24 12:36 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2021-05-25 7:18 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-25 8:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-24 9:47 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24 7:15 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-24 10:12 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-30 6:39 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-30 10:16 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-24 7:15 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-05-24 9:55 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-24 16:39 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-24 18:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-26 10:26 ` Phillip Wood
2021-05-24 9:04 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Junio C Hamano
2021-06-08 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] " Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-08 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-08 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-08 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-09 9:34 ` Jeff King
2021-06-09 15:01 ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-09 0:21 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] " Junio C Hamano
2021-06-09 14:54 ` Phillip Wood
2021-06-12 16:50 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] maintenance: " Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-12 16:50 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-12 16:50 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-14 4:36 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-06-16 18:12 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-06-17 4:11 ` Eric Sunshine [this message]
2021-06-17 14:26 ` Phillip Wood
2021-07-02 15:04 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-06-12 16:50 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-07-02 14:25 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Lénaïc Huard
2021-07-02 14:25 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-07-02 14:25 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-07-06 19:56 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-06 20:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-13 0:15 ` Jeff King
2021-07-13 2:22 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-07-13 3:56 ` Jeff King
2021-07-13 5:17 ` Eric Sunshine
2021-07-13 7:04 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-07-06 21:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-08-23 20:06 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-23 22:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-02 14:25 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-07-06 20:03 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-07-02 18:18 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Junio C Hamano
2021-07-06 13:18 ` Phillip Wood
2021-08-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v8 " Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v8 1/3] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v8 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-24 17:45 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-23 20:40 ` [PATCH v8 3/3] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-24 17:45 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-24 17:47 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " Derrick Stolee
2021-08-27 21:02 ` [PATCH v9 " Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-27 21:02 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-27 21:02 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-27 23:54 ` Ramsay Jones
2021-08-27 21:02 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-09-04 20:54 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] " Lénaïc Huard
2021-09-04 20:54 ` [PATCH v10 1/3] cache.h: Introduce a generic "xdg_config_home_for(…)" function Lénaïc Huard
2021-09-04 20:54 ` [PATCH v10 2/3] maintenance: `git maintenance run` learned `--scheduler=<scheduler>` Lénaïc Huard
2021-09-04 20:55 ` [PATCH v10 3/3] maintenance: add support for systemd timers on Linux Lénaïc Huard
2021-09-07 16:48 ` [PATCH v10 0/3] " Derrick Stolee
2021-09-08 11:44 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-09 5:52 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-09-09 19:55 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-09-27 12:50 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-27 21:44 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-17 17:22 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] " Derrick Stolee
2021-08-17 19:43 ` Phillip Wood
2021-08-17 20:29 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-18 5:56 ` Lénaïc Huard
2021-08-18 13:28 ` Derrick Stolee
2021-08-18 18:23 ` Junio C Hamano
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