From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6517215F4 for ; Tue, 1 May 2018 18:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756218AbeEASKV (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 May 2018 14:10:21 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:46216 "EHLO mail-qt0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756175AbeEASKU (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 May 2018 14:10:20 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m16-v6so15434057qtg.13 for ; Tue, 01 May 2018 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=WQqLWOz56UnhrX8JI8NHhwLoyvIpYb1ZsNFN4udVc+U=; b=uiM1nv6wk8ESGz3wk3wwUpwOYYzOymG7dYB5SWdAHivHHlbmqWSvBAeCMJwA4YNvqH Hb2lnBhn7jXMbbe0oE1vscRqhvSC8AyS4S/2dTqnJzgp0CbJ+0P/BtDWEHuCRaUMahvA xJW899U3oHKSTlDyz5bD0TyzGDbunbgNa/lQeTKNYIQMsL5b6ni4bR3YQx2bj71glIT2 mKvdONbnW4eE/lft+Ge30rMBjeZLQx91HQKu2//trj+UI9VWb9VUvmC37zuL7f3iVzBI SqVWvGrIWuhrjhdSk4h4HhQMm2tsA/b+sDR5kR5Pgh0xqm+kFWivvP4Ie54mUKLlzRKb 1ysA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WQqLWOz56UnhrX8JI8NHhwLoyvIpYb1ZsNFN4udVc+U=; b=Km14H7M7KFbRSESpTinrPAgAr8VnViby5mB/Z3txPtD+24L1lZ+q8DE9EydVLzZnbT M5jFLRjwK+Vf9RwaOesxfyh3W9stpPkUZTRATiuowFd47m1LtNO2bSW2k7bldYBjrCp6 TzzgABPMjxZOltnukNkGR2TpPKslSz/q6tlsYBVQTEl7BfRtvn/tVC55ZrPgY463whPi i3xa+I4nE7gOhg4MBquANOMGMHVemyXun9VXtOsONnbSk8gaSqEJZnUGpTY1boQywN3B tzyfF/QKXJwMPnVwZpAh4JHtMMH4ciI6AeQXug77xZ0EChLDa9VRT2RmZmOS1jVBnaR6 C/DQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCAjfsFGFi/KXyMNx+g4HBWA8Um8lfxH4U6huTGr/u1HKdLMIiE 59DMUM2mQvG5wYZS5gjk3FWzyLDHW38+a3QsBLQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpzUqX6LABGcKof/LHTLyuqSN96zuAsNdx5+idxN39E0xPO4lni1cOarbNTZId8t9ZvLC0lSgikH1OpheJCUPo= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:17d1:: with SMTP id r17-v6mr13781772qtk.314.1525198219872; Tue, 01 May 2018 11:10:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.170.75 with HTTP; Tue, 1 May 2018 11:10:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5cd81e58-7cd4-f5df-14e8-2ba3d221e128@kdbg.org> References: <918c69be-89ce-c66d-92ee-4821e9412793@kdbg.org> <5cd81e58-7cd4-f5df-14e8-2ba3d221e128@kdbg.org> From: Eric Sunshine Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 14:10:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1T0DOoD8vempWMTf3hQlDMcBkgA Message-ID: Subject: Re: js/no-pager-shorthand [was: What's cooking in git.git (Apr 2018, #04; Mon, 30)] To: Johannes Sixt Cc: Johannes Schindelin , Junio C Hamano , Git List , Kaartic Sivaraam Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Johannes Sixt wrote: > Am 01.05.2018 um 13:57 schrieb Johannes Schindelin: >> On Mon, 30 Apr 2018, Johannes Sixt wrote: >>> Am 30.04.2018 um 05:25 schrieb Junio C Hamano: >>>> * js/no-pager-shorthand (2018-04-25) 1 commit >>>> - git: add -N as a short option for --no-pager >>> >>> I find -P is not that bad after all. >> >> To me, `-P` would suggest the positive action --pager rather than the >> negative --no-pager. > > >> Your use case is quite the corner case, I hope you realize that, as it >> seems that everybody else is fine with having -FRX as default options for >> `less`... And with copy/pasting from the `less` output. So introducing a >> sweet short option for --no-pager, for the benefit of maybe even only one >> user, seems quite... unusual. > > Given the ambivalence (or inconclusiveness), I retract this patch without > offering a replacement for the time being. Although paged output is generally nice, I frequently find myself typing --no-pager numerous times during the day, so I, for one, welcome having a short option (and would be sad to see this patch retracted). As with Hannes, I too find -P a reasonably intuitive and easy-to-remember short option.