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From: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: "Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Jens Lehmann" <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>,
	"Philippe Blain" <levraiphilippeblain@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug'
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 16:11:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPig+cRk-BB79+pO83A6Qov9W75_91gzaHY4Le1MYKDUWagugg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BFKEoHTgdSnUO86zSPYR0mLHv-vUB+Z-SoTtYQbUY4H=Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:03 PM Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:10 AM Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> wrote:
> > I also find the test_pause() user-experience suboptimal and appreciate
> > the idea of improving it. However, this approach seems fatally flawed.
> > In particular, setting HOME to the user's real home directory could
> > lead to undesirable results. When I'm using test_pause() to debug a
> > problem with a test, I'm not just inspecting the test state, but I
> > quite often interact with the state using the same Git commands as the
> > test itself would use. Hence, it is very common for me to pause the
> > test just before the suspect commands and then run those commands
> > manually (instead of allowing the test script to do so). In such a
> > scenario, HOME must be pointing at the test's home directory, not at
> > my real home directory.
>
> I agree, but I worry that it's not just HOME.  I'd think the point of
> test_pause is to let you interact with the repository state while
> getting the same results that the test framework would, and I think
> some tests could be affected by TERM and SHELL too (e.g. perhaps the
> recent issues with COLUMNS).  Granted, I suspect far fewer tests would
> be affected by those, but I'm not sure I like the idea of inability to
> reproduce the same issues.

Oh, indeed. I didn't mean to imply that HOME is the only problematic
one; they all are since, as you say, they can impact correctness and
reproducibility of the tests themselves. I called out HOME specially
because of the potential danger involved with pointing it at the
user's real home directory since it could very well lead to clobbering
of precious files and other settings belonging to the user.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-19 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-19 17:16 [PATCH 0/2] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] test-lib-functions: use user's SHELL, HOME and TERM for 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-20  3:08   ` Carlo Arenas
2021-08-20 12:14     ` Philippe Blain
2021-08-19 17:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] test-lib-functions: use user's TERM and HOME for 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-19 19:24   ` Taylor Blau
2021-08-20  3:18     ` Carlo Arenas
2021-08-19 18:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Eric Sunshine
2021-08-19 19:57   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-08-19 20:14     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-08-19 20:03   ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-19 20:11     ` Eric Sunshine [this message]
2021-08-20 12:12       ` Philippe Blain
2021-08-20 15:50         ` Eric Sunshine
2021-08-20 18:23         ` Jeff King
2021-08-28  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28  0:47   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28  0:47   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-08-28  7:27     ` Elijah Newren
2021-08-28 14:50       ` Philippe Blain
2021-08-28  0:47   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:31   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 20:04       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-01 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-01 20:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-01 21:52         ` Elijah Newren
2021-09-01 23:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-02 13:10             ` Philippe Blain
2021-09-01 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:20       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] test-lib-functions: keep user's debugger config files and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:38       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:38         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] test-lib-functions: use 'TEST_SHELL_PATH' in 'test_pause' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:38         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] test-lib-functions: optionally keep HOME, TERM and SHELL " Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-06  4:39         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] test-lib-functions: keep user's debugger config files and TERM in 'debug' Philippe Blain via GitGitGadget
2021-09-07  6:24         ` [PATCH v5 0/3] test-lib-functions.sh: keep user's HOME, TERM and SHELL for 'test_pause' and 'debug' Elijah Newren

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