From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Couder Subject: Re: Promoting Git developers Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:53:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <54FDA6B5.8050505@drmicha.warpmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Michael J Gruber , David Kastrup , git , Jeff King , Scott Chacon To: Junio C Hamano X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Wed Mar 11 14:53:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YVh4Y-0000oY-8y for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:53:18 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752129AbbCKNxN (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:53:13 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com ([209.85.223.176]:34275 "EHLO mail-ie0-f176.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752009AbbCKNxM (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:53:12 -0400 Received: by iecsl2 with SMTP id sl2so29462263iec.1 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ibyw8PAIPsKPFnOHsJr1hW4X1l9z2mp8QMudb2jEw8Y=; b=MYr40opPYASgojhoT005w2giwciFEBp8IDbkPtN1xwC025PPSKxvj2m+ur8m5EOWRl PKZblUwBVjACEHQ07ej7kizzpkBKDnlVLMF5xEPLlUheQRqiZJQ3vZGOa4Qs5L155jXc haWoEiQpKD8j9DZHEuRZDj5ATOsnpATRHzxg4R/o63JwktJWzY2exIXTsv9SrUGEREAg 99qI3FUeOm7HUFF0N0fFnZsJaOsFn+EQZK5aUsz6Ywv/V9tjWyjiRKhUmxhyAsPKXhyb eNSc9Z4R1yyWj0tBWwpXZUJ8k0J6dqC9A66gMaOywWAbxTvDaeYMfiLTIP8N3R+pCr2N rd1w== X-Received: by 10.50.66.235 with SMTP id i11mr65938977igt.40.1426081991265; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.245.144 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Christian Couder writes: > >> I don't want to write again about each of these points now. I am more >> interested in discussing a good strategy to try to revert the sad >> trend of Git developers being promoted less and less, because I think >> that it is really very important. > > I would suspect that those who agree with you would appreciate if > you or somebody volunteered to act as our CKDO (chief kudos > distribution officer). I do not think I have enough time to do that > well. One good place to start might be to scan the list and > summarize something like the following on weekly or monthly basis, > as these are not something you can get by pointing people to "git > shortlog" output. > > - Those who gave helpful review comments, "how about going this > way" illustration patches, etc. Bonus points to those who helped > onboarding newcomers. > > - Those who asked pertinent questions on common pain points, and > those who answered them helpfully. Ok, I can start something about this two points every week or every few week. It would be best if I could get help from at least one person as I think it is a lot of work. We can perhaps use the Git Developer Site at https://github.com/git/git.github.io to edit a new page collaboratively that would be published on http://git.github.io/ and after that send an email to the mailing list. > If you are more ambitious, the source of the kudos may want to cover > activities outside of this mailing list (e.g. giving talks and > tutorials at conferences, etc.). First I don't know if we should really give kudos (or badges) or have something more like the former Git Traffic you talk about in another email (or perhaps both). And then I expect that if people give talks or tutorials at conferences or publish a blog post or have other news they want to share, they could edit the web page themselves on GitHub (or fork it and send a pull request if they don't have the rights). I also appreciate very much that you are willing to improve the release notes by adding a summary with people's names. It would be nice if we could also have somewhere on a web page at least a good listing of the authors and how many commits they had contributed (since the beginning and maybe also during the last year). We could also add other listings made using the Helped-by and Reviewed-by trailers. I don't think we should rely on an external web site like OpenHub (which is still giving me a 504 Gateway Time-out on the contributor page) or even the (broken) contributor graph on GitHub for that. If Scott and Peff don't want it on git-scm.com then it is of course better on git.github.io than nowhere. Thanks, Christian.