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From: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: "Matheus Tavares" <matheus.bernardino@usp.br>,
	git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gummerer" <t.gummerer@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GSoC][PATCH 3/3] clone: use dir-iterator to avoid explicit dir traversal
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:41:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP8UFD2LLL+V54k3XmHzmg5t1zanpAvY_=7GqXL43vLPTTmuww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87va1a3z8e.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:48 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 23 2019, Matheus Tavares wrote:
>
> > Replace usage of opendir/readdir/closedir API to traverse directories
> > recursively, at copy_or_link_directory function, by the dir-iterator
> > API. This simplifies the code and avoid recursive calls to
> > copy_or_link_directory.
>
> Sounds good in principle.
>
> > This process also brings some safe behaviour changes to
> > copy_or_link_directory:
>
> I ad-hoc tested some of these, and could spot behavior changes. We
> should have tests for these.

I agree that ideally we should have a few tests for these, but this is
a grey area (see below) and there are areas that are not grey for
which we don't have any test...

And then adding tests would make this series become larger than a
typical GSoC micro-project...

> >  - It will no longer follows symbolic links. This is not a problem,
> >    since the function is only used to copy .git/objects directory, and
> >    symbolic links are not expected there.
>
> I don't think we should make that assumption, and I don't know of
> anything else in git that does.

I think Git itself doesn't create symlinks in ".git/objects/" and we
don't recommend people manually tweaking what's inside ".git/". That's
why I think it's a grey area.

> I've certainly symlinked individual objects or packs into a repo for
> debugging / recovery, and it would be unexpected to clone that and miss
> something.

If people tweak what's inside ".git" by hand, they are expected to
know what they doing and be able to debug it.

> So in the general case we should be strict in what we generate, but
> permissive in what we accept. We don't want a "clone" of an existing
> repo to fail, or "fsck" to fail after clone...

Yeah, but realistically I don't think we are going to foolproof Git
from everything that someone could do by tweaking random things
manually in ".git/".

I am not saying that it should be ok to make things much worse than
they are now in case some things have been tweaked in ".git/", but if
things in general don't look worse in this grey area, and a patch
otherwise improves things, then I think the patch should be ok.

> When trying to test this I made e.g. objects/c4 a symlink to /tmp/c4,
> and a specific object in objects/4d/ a symlink to /tmp too.
>
> Without this patch the individual object is still a symlink, but the
> object under the directory gets resolved, and "un-symlinked", also with
> --dissociate, which seems like an existing bug.
>
> With your patch that symlink structure is copied as-is. That's more
> faithful under --local, but a regression for --dissociate (which didn't
> work fully to begin with...).

I think that I use --local (which is the default if the repository is
specified as a local path) much more often than --dissociate, so for
me the patch would be very positive, especially since --dissociate is
already buggy anyway in this case.

> I was paranoid that "no longer follows symbolic links" could also mean
> "will ignore those objects", but it seems to more faithfully copy things
> as-is for *that* case.

Nice!

> But then I try with --no-hardlinks and stock git dereferences my symlink
> structure, but with your patches fails completely:
>
>     Cloning into bare repository 'repo2'...
>     error: copy-fd: read returned: Is a directory
>     fatal: failed to copy file to 'repo2/objects/c4': Is a directory
>     fatal: the remote end hung up unexpectedly
>     fatal: cannot change to 'repo2': No such file or directory

Maybe this could be fixed. Anyway I don't use --no-hardlinks very
often, so I still think the patch is a positive even with this
failure.

> So there's at least one case in a few minutes of prodding this where we
> can't clone a working repo now, however obscure the setup.
>
> >  - Hidden directories won't be skipped anymore. In fact, it is odd that
> >    the function currently skip hidden directories but not hidden files.
> >    The reason for that could be unintentional: probably the intention
> >    was to skip '.' and '..' only, but it ended up accidentally skipping
> >    all directories starting with '.'. Again, it must not be a problem
> >    not to skip hidden dirs since hidden dirs/files are not expected at
> >    .git/objects.
>
> I reproduce this with --local. A ".foo" isn't copied before, now it
> is. Good, I guess. We'd have already copied a "foo".
>
> >  - Now, copy_or_link_directory will call die() in case of an error on
> >    openddir, readdir or lstat, inside dir_iterator_advance. That means
> >    it will abort in case of an error trying to fetch any iteration
> >    entry.

It would be nice if the above paragraph in the commit message would
say what was the previous behavior and why it's better to die() .

> Good, but really IMNSHO this series is tweaking some critical core code
> and desperately needs tests.

It's critical that this code works well in the usual case, yes. (And
there are already a lot of tests that test that.) But when people have
manually tweaked things in their ".git/objects/", it's not critical
what happens. Many systems have "undefined behaviors" at some point
and that's ok.

And no, I am not saying that we should consider it completely
"undefined behavior" as soon as something is manually tweaked in
".git/", and yes, tests would be nice, and your comments and manual
tests on this are very much appreciated. It's just that I don't think
we should require too much when a patch, especially from a first time
contributor, is already improving things, though it also changes a few
things in a grey area.

> Unfortunately, in this as in so many edge case we have no existing
> tests.
>
> This would be much easier to review and would give reviewers more
> confidence if the parts of this that changed behavior started with a
> patch or patches that just manually objects/ dirs with various

I think "created" is missing between "manually" and  "objects/" in the
above sentence.

> combinations of symlinks, hardlinks etc., and asserted that the various
> options did exactly what they're doing now, and made sure the
> source/target repos were the same after/both passed "fsck".
>
> Then followed by some version of this patch which changes the behavior,
> and would be forced to tweak those tests. To make it clear e.g. that
> some cases where we have a working "clone" are now a hard error.

Unfortunately this would be a lot of work and not appropriate for a
GSoC micro-project.

Thanks,
Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-24  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-23 19:03 [GSoC][PATCH 0/3] clone: convert explicit dir traversal to dir-iterator Matheus Tavares
2019-02-23 19:03 ` [GSoC][PATCH 1/3] dir-iterator: add pedantic option to dir_iterator_begin Matheus Tavares
2019-02-23 21:35   ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-02-24  8:35     ` Christian Couder
2019-02-24 17:43       ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-24 21:06         ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-02-23 19:03 ` [GSoC][PATCH 2/3] clone: extract function from copy_or_link_directory Matheus Tavares
2019-02-24  8:38   ` Christian Couder
2019-02-23 19:03 ` [GSoC][PATCH 3/3] clone: use dir-iterator to avoid explicit dir traversal Matheus Tavares
2019-02-23 21:48   ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-02-24 18:19     ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-23 22:40   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-24  9:41     ` Christian Couder [this message]
2019-02-24 14:45       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-25  9:45         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 0/7] clone: dir iterator refactoring with tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 1/7] dir-iterator: add pedantic option to dir_iterator_begin Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 2/7] dir-iterator: use stat() instead of lstat() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  1:53             ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 3/7] clone: extract function from copy_or_link_directory Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 4/7] clone: test for our behavior on odd objects/* content Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 5/7] clone: use dir-iterator to avoid explicit dir traversal Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  3:48             ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-26 11:33               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 6/7] clone: stop ignoring dotdirs in --local etc. clone Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-26  0:26           ` [WIP RFC PATCH 7/7] clone: break cloning repos that have symlinks in them Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-25  2:31       ` [GSoC][PATCH 3/3] clone: use dir-iterator to avoid explicit dir traversal Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-25 10:25         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-25 20:40           ` Christian Couder
2019-02-26 10:33         ` Christian Couder
2019-02-23 19:07 ` [GSoC][PATCH 0/3] clone: convert explicit dir traversal to dir-iterator Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-23 20:10   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-02-23 21:59 ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-02-24 16:34   ` Matheus Tavares Bernardino
2019-02-24 21:07     ` Thomas Gummerer

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