From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BE61F97E for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 09:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726479AbeJJQfP (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:35:15 -0400 Received: from mail-it1-f194.google.com ([209.85.166.194]:39479 "EHLO mail-it1-f194.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725827AbeJJQfO (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Oct 2018 12:35:14 -0400 Received: by mail-it1-f194.google.com with SMTP id w200-v6so6921848itc.4 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 02:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d5rjPAT0SWEQOQp/x71JcDzVn3MKFBapBET2cKBHGRE=; b=Hjtjw+3bLHfy4UyXZFzybRR3K3Pi4nxf+xiVNaEZEZR5dKeIXngZPtwu+ICWBjvwij p2sgtOndVpEGWRvwyT6Zd8zD+A33oxjzcAOgj1uihtuso/iMWIJBddrepqAqPEYzPeQM 8mSQvyffSu3Jjf3KUIeAsfM/mRFniJZS/MwoBKb2btG5c9zi6nOSKmTvebJgnfhV8oGs f5dR5AyUYgXpAuZBlUK8+XX2qxSRylFSB0V0+A+2VJQVLK6xmadNOUwDtAEUorpYHBmX mNprsVyxzA8ashALrMStC8HAy6WdxpXWzM7Fhz6esDhUrmRIqGpTu8npjD1E30Hy6DQ+ 9Oig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d5rjPAT0SWEQOQp/x71JcDzVn3MKFBapBET2cKBHGRE=; b=cMtOfcUhKjvD8DxalJpqwO3op2bnmsrdcs+VBr2dO+oPk3cHYMhRMT2IiZZ7i8OhvO 2Yt5tDi7fCLN6v+Sslw6N5wawKcUte7NwO6V7nr0GjOPl1vbZSHdK2Gc1uAhbT77nC3Z rdQRJTGtVBRIjxMIwsxO2HY+uOiWIQQH1qASICu9nRJAQpiOz6fCf1rSGcg/I7fy/iTW HOe02v0YGaQ1ml4Av1RHxF3wdhxInnwHq3AbzUiZkzX/ksJHsx/0EeYc7UD0O855WupH 8ieUB7JLgDlpvpPxul5C7iZYkhUqO+2bt46BMdmFnUN8nhC78nZYA9U5trzyn4Zfd2ct H0lw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojHJYfeUA2RVXn9c8xev0Nqpgbsah+nCJ/PPOdznMayKQ46hQcj HWz4u7wJSEpAHc6ag0oBIuB8xa/hhBZhHqeBSU4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62w7ucQ/AoTh6wAD7NfMCmR68qDraeG7E6QaF+DgTKqvrjyilleuJMgmFBIp/1iJ4IMAUMPJvMXrdERb9w6u4k= X-Received: by 2002:a24:cac6:: with SMTP id k189-v6mr72532itg.168.1539162839018; Wed, 10 Oct 2018 02:13:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181008170505.GA13134@manohar-ssh> In-Reply-To: From: Christian Couder Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 11:13:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH][Outreachy] remove all the inclusions of git-compat-util.h in header files To: Junio C Hamano Cc: Johannes Schindelin , Derrick Stolee , ananyakittu1997@gmail.com, git Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:46 AM Junio C Hamano wrote: > > Johannes Schindelin writes: > > > Personally, I find the "whoever is picking it up should do the thinking= " > > much too harsh for a first-time contributor who specifically came throu= gh > > the Outreachy program, i.e. expected to have a gentle introduction into > > the project, and into the ways we work. > > Oh, absolutely I agree. > > Any random discussion participant can say "left over bits" in any > random message with an idea that is left on the table. Looking for > it may narrow the set messages to be examined, but the query result > will inevitably be still full of chaff. It is not a very good match > for "gentle introduction" material for GSoC/Outreachy microprojects. > > List of reasonable low-hanging fruits is hard to maintain, as the > cost of building and maintaining such a list would easily outweigh > the cost (and fun) of picking these low-hanging fruits yourself X-<. > > I do not think of a good solution to help newcomers offhand. In the "How to find other ideas for microprojects" on https://git.github.io/SoC-2018-Microprojects/ there is already the following: "When you find something you are interested to work on, please ask first on the mailing list if it=E2=80=99s worth doing and if it=E2=80=99s a= ppropriate for a microproject before starting to work on what you find. Even if it looks straightforward, there could be hidden reasons why it is too difficult or just inappropriate." So I think one solution to this problem is already proposed on our web site= .