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From: ZheNing Hu <adlternative@gmail.com>
To: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Christian Couder" <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: Question: What's the best way to implement directory permission control in git?
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 22:22:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOLTT8R1WQyqLNfymJgxTgCuoOKEe0Vu+7k9D+85u-x53FYJiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABPp-BH8BYMaG=VK_OpfX3QKBLAOiLH9sTDdTWq5=4C6-663HA@mail.gmail.com>

Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> 于2022年7月29日周五 09:48写道:

> > But due to git's commits referring to a Merkle tree I can tell you that
> > a subdirectory "secret" has a current tree SHA-1 of XYZ, without giving
> > you any of that content.
> >
> > You *could* then manually construct a commit like:
> >
> >         tree <NEW_TREE>
> >         ...
> >
> > Where the "<NEW_TREE>" would be a tree like:
> >
> >         100644 blob <NEW-BLOB-SHA1>     UPDATED.md
> >         040000 tree <XYZ>       secret-stuff
> >
> > And send you a PACK with my new two three new objects (commit, blob &
> > new top-level NEW_TREE). To the remote end & protocol it wouldn't be
> > distinguishable from a "normal" push.
> >
> > But nothing supports this already, as a practical matter most of git
> > either hard dies if content is missing, or has other odd edge-case
> > semantics (and I'm not up-to-date on the state of the art).
>
> Actually, this is what sparse-index (as a sub-option in
> sparse-checkout) already basically does.  See
> Documentation/technical/sparse-index.txt for details, and note that
> we're basically in Phase IV of that document.  In short, the
> sparse-index makes it so that common operations based on the index do
> not need and do not use information about some subtrees, so if someone
> has a partial clone starting with no blobs, they will only have to
> download a small subset of the repository blobs in order to handle
> most Git operations, and many operations become much faster since the
> index is so much smaller.
>

I think this is mainly due to sparse-checkout instead of sparse-index.
Without the sparse-index, we also can do git add, git commit without fetching
other blob objects.

But sparse-index can help reduce the size of indexes.

> However:
>
> * Users can run `git sparse-checkout reapply --no-sparse-index` at any
> time to force the index to be full again.  This is documented, and
> even suggested that users remember in case they attempt to use
> external tools (jgit? libgit2? others?) that don't understand sparse
> directory entries.  So, removing this ability would be problematic.
>

Or `git sparse-checkout disable`? Whatever, when git finds other objects
missing, it will fetch the objects from remote, and we may do ACL check here.
Just let jgit/libgit2/others fail to fetch objects (in this special case?)

> * It makes no guarantee whatsoever that the sparse directory entries
> are not expanded by less frequently used Git commands.  Notice the
> "ensure_full_index()" calls sprinkled throughout the code.  Some have
> been removed, one by one, as commands have been modified to better
> operate with a sparse index.  The odds they'll all be removed in the
> future may well be close to 0%.
>

That's good...

> * The `ort` merge strategy ignores the index altogether during
> operation.  If it needs to walk into a tree to complete a
> merge/rebase/revert/cherry-pick/etc., it will.  Further, it doesn't
> just look into those paths, it intentionally de-sparsifies paths
> involved in conflicts, so it can display it to the user.
>

So the user has to care and deal with a merge conflict in a directory
that he "doesn't have access to"...

It would be nice to have the user only care about conflicts in directories/files
to which he has permissions. I don't know if it would be very
difficult to design.

> * Just because the index is sparse does not mean other commands can't
> walk into those directories.  So `git grep` (when given a revision),
> `git diff`, `git log`, etc. will look in (old versions of) those
> paths.
>

Agree.

> > Anyway, just saying that for the longer term I'm not aware of an
> > *intrinsic* reason for why we couldn't support this sort of thing, in
> > case anyone's interested in putting in a *lot* of leg work to make it
> > happen.
>
> And on top of the technical leg work required, they would also need to
> somehow convince everyone else that it's worth accepting the increased
> maintenance effort.  Right now, even if someone had already done the
> work to implement it, I'd say it's not worth the maintenance costs.
>
> However, there are two alternative choices I can think of here: You
> can use submodules if you want a fixed part of the repository to only
> be available to a subset of folks, or use josh
> (https://github.com/josh-project/josh) if you need it to be more
> dynamic.

Thanks, I will take a look.

ZheNing Hu

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-29 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-27  8:56 Question: What's the best way to implement directory permission control in git? ZheNing Hu
2022-07-27  9:17 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-28 14:54   ` ZheNing Hu
2022-07-28 15:50     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29  1:48       ` Elijah Newren
2022-07-29 14:22         ` ZheNing Hu [this message]
2022-07-29 14:57           ` rsbecker
2022-07-29 13:15       ` ZheNing Hu
2022-07-27  9:24 ` Thomas Guyot
2022-07-29 12:49   ` ZheNing Hu
2022-07-29 23:50 ` Emily Shaffer
2022-07-31 16:15   ` ZheNing Hu
2022-08-01 10:14   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys

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