From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726871F8C1 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 18:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730206AbgEDSbo (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 May 2020 14:31:44 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33702 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729762AbgEDSbo (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 May 2020 14:31:44 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-x541.google.com (mail-pg1-x541.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::541]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF22C061A0E for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x541.google.com with SMTP id b8so148660pgi.11 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bocoup-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aQwpIo2T6YSHaab5z8a1q+PSQt7rZPECrVD/V+1EQr8=; b=KHjCqnW1QmcuakE3Odb9BQ2V49PgxQY9FJPq6hz9ZbAphzFsjfh0MReJ0c06PwKtSo yP3+i1iPb0An9gnJmaaZlx9zfW2bkiAVuhRCtG/HRodGmrZ6oBRV5g/8rAj/HlrDZUwS OE7TzrMGYlBDldlpvJ4z2NnVdB2QdV5efmllVGRBU2ZlvyVt0Lvbiqb97OHZhk25g9Mm eFEH5KGT9lz/bXYojkvOkuiUM+KtvPKVjkUVR7qmPbQZSkmQr6+gK4JKwc4cId5RyOtV V/FtnFPADZK9cxbros5z/DodmGT9siwdzgs8sjQdH8t38VHMpc1UBlBBePJ9J0TmH62m 0p4g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aQwpIo2T6YSHaab5z8a1q+PSQt7rZPECrVD/V+1EQr8=; b=bivdJOF0xgfgF5pRY0bkr3SAOOV8/VhiZRfV76j+1CRXOL9po2220bfSZ+6SH6Lts9 AhOCa6KiJVntEsQHODf9KAU8uohiauG0JRCOR8MUw8xjw9gC0jwExOVznMzomRwcAsRm Bu3r0D5nJb3m9dXdIJ4+6X4tfEpRa8Pu3C/tsl8OzM0+6Zr0EjWMqx/TCOL+2BCVTEVx m7aokOYIonFClS5mYBtMpFfVR6GVxxyrvbhpLXARy/vvNE5AKtSESlXgfMAyoG1L8ml4 y0Q6pg1SGD6bt5zhLe6ldw3r/N6lZUdXPS0g1a79ftMZgMWDK9bQlwVrpZNT6f6JlzGC adUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZ2LlOnIgL6s4GfjuJLkQvuX34bptcb7ijpVRBacdgPOY2xFLO3 C32G36w6kheoTPqsaCXFIASh8QlSvLMdUcpau1WtDA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLIv64yapHknV/JD2TjgqBNyhm40r72d4FOgof9rM49JpE9PZef11oOPmISNr9O2Coqg8r5MFurXq0L0BZMtlM= X-Received: by 2002:a63:155f:: with SMTP id 31mr328433pgv.0.1588617103418; Mon, 04 May 2020 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200504174548.r3zaftqcq52yhd2u@chatter.i7.local> In-Reply-To: <20200504174548.r3zaftqcq52yhd2u@chatter.i7.local> From: Simon Pieters Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 20:31:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rename offensive terminology (master) To: Simon Pieters Cc: git@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:45 PM Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 07:20:33PM +0200, Simon Pieters wrote: > > "master" is an offensive term, as it can be interpreted as being > > slavery-origin terminology. See > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master/slave_(technology)#Terminology_concerns > > Git doesn't use "master-slave" terminology -- the "master" comes from > the concept of having a "master" from which copies (branches) are made: > > https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_recording > > The concept predates the music business and goes back to middle ages > when a guild master would create a "master work" or "master piece" that > the apprentices could use for study or for imitation. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_craftsman > > So, while I wholeheartedly support using inclusive language, I think git > is in the clear here. Thanks. This may be so, but it's still the case that it can be (and has been) interpreted as being slavery-origin terminology. If you decide to not change this, then I think it may still be good to add something like the above to the git documentation (like in [1] and [2]), so that projects using git are less inclined to change it for their projects, and maybe the people who are offended by it would be more comfortable if they know that the project maintainers are aware of this issue and could explain why this usage of the word is ok. [1] https://git-scm.com/docs/gitglossary#Documentation/gitglossary.txt-aiddefmasteramaster [2] https://git-scm.com/docs/git-init -- Simon Pieters Bocoup https://bocoup.com/