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From: "Jakub Narębski" <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Cc: Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com>,
	Abhradeep Chakraborty <chakrabortyabhradeep79@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What is the status of GSoC 2022 work on making Git use roaring bitmaps?
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 19:43:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANQwDwdXoO4BeSzCCedC9VnPoJV-eHSr18YJeAeG2Gvj9-__zQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZMlCB/Pkzlb7Wvq5@nand.local>

Hello

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 19:34, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 01:34:32PM +0200, Jakub Narębski wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 13:26, Han-Wen Nienhuys <hanwen@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 10:18 PM Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I haven't proved conclusively one way or the other where Roaring+Run is
> > > > significantly faster than EWAH or vice-versa. There are some cases where
> > > > the former is a clear winner, and other cases where it's the latter.
> > > >
> > > > In any event, my extremely WIP patches to make this mostly work are
> > > > available here:
> > > >
> > > >   https://github.com/ttaylorr/git/compare/tb/roaring-bitmaps
> > > >
> > >
> > > thanks. For anyone reading along, the changes to JGit are here
> > >
> > > https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/jgit/jgit/+/203448
> > >
> > > I was looking into this because I was hoping that roaring might
> > > decrease peak memory usage.
> > >
> > > I don't have firm evidence that it's better or worse, but I did
> > > observe that runtime and memory usage during GC (which is heavy on
> > > bitmap operations due to delta/xor encoding) was unchanged. That makes
> > > me pessimistic that there are significant gains to be had.
> >
> > The major advantage Roaring bitmaps have over EWAH and other
> > simple Run Length Encoding based compression algorithms is that
> > bitmap operations can be done on compressed bitmaps: there is no
> > need to uncompress bitmap to do (want1 OR want2 AND NOT have).
>
> Yeah, this is definitely where the majority of CPU savings seems to
> remain. The existing implementation in my branch is much too eager to
> uncompress bitmaps when we need to perform a logical/binary operation on
> them.

As I understand it, the current code in Git (in C implementation) uses
uncompressed bitmap to store the result of OR-ing, but it uses compressed
EWAH to perform <uncompressed result> OR <EWAH-compressed bitmap>.

> I think with some more surgery we could leave bitmaps in a compressed
> state for longer. I am not sure whether or not we should ever uncompress
> the bitmaps, though it's possible that doing so is beneficial since
> uncompressed bitmaps have better query performance (albeit more costly
> memory usage).

I'm not sure if it would be worth the complexity, but supposedly you can
perform L bitwise OR operations in O(log(L)) instead of O(L). Current C code
computes OR operation sequentially, see above, and also
  https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/pack-bitmap.c#L103\0

There might be thousands of "wants" and of "haves", but is it common?

Best,
-- 
Jakub Narębski

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-01 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-23 19:26 What is the status of GSoC 2022 work on making Git use roaring bitmaps? Jakub Narębski
2023-03-23 20:26 ` Taylor Blau
2023-03-23 22:01   ` Jakub Narębski
2023-03-24  3:48     ` Abhradeep Chakraborty
2023-03-25 17:40       ` Jakub Narębski
2023-07-31 17:46         ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2023-07-31 20:18           ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 11:26             ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2023-08-01 11:34               ` Jakub Narębski
2023-08-01 11:54                 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2023-08-01 13:17                   ` Jakub Narębski
2023-08-01 17:33                 ` Taylor Blau
2023-08-01 17:43                   ` Jakub Narębski [this message]
2023-08-01 17:31               ` Taylor Blau

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