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From: "Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	Abhishek Kumar <abhishekkumar8222@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] commit-graph-format.txt: fix "Hash Version" description
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 16:10:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN0heSp024=Kyy7gdQ2VSetk_5iVhj_qdT8CMVPcry_AwWrhHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e216492c-d11a-6733-db64-720d027d3d42@gmail.com>

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 14:37, Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/14/2020 8:21 AM, Martin Ågren wrote:
> > We say that value 1 means "SHA-1", but in fact, it means "whatever
> > the_hash_algo is", see commit c166599862 ("commit-graph: convert to
> > using the_hash_algo", 2018-11-14).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Martin Ågren <martin.agren@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  If we want to be more fine-grained in the future, we'll need to say,
> >  e.g., "2 means SHA-1, 3 means SHA-256" or, perhaps preferrably, bump the
> >  version number.
> >
> >  I wonder: Should we instead say "1 means SHA-1, 2 means SHA-256"? It
> >  could be implemented as "easily" as "if (value_from_header !=
> >  value_from_the_hash_algo) die(...);" for now. Might that pay off in the
> >  long run?
> >
> >  This relates to Stolee's "in a vacuum" comment [1] ... so maybe we're
> >  fine.
>
> I think that was the intention of the byte, but that is not what ended
> up happening.

When I wrote this patch, I did go with "fix <thing>" rather than
"document SHA-256". For the other patches, it's sort of obvious how
those formats are so old that it's no wonder they assumed SHA-1. But
here, we did go to some trouble to try and future-proof things and
already had NewHash in mind. So that calls for "fix <thing>". But I'm
more and more starting to think that it's the implementation that should
be fixed and that the docs should just be extended to add "2 means
SHA-256".

> If we want that to be the case, then we should do that
> work as part of the 2.29 cycle before we release with the ability to
> create SHA-256 repos (which will lock the commit-graph format for these
> repos).

Part of my reasoning behind [3] was that in exactly a situation like this,
we'd be able to say

  With extensions.objectFormat=sha256, Git 2.29-2.30 will barf at the
  commit-graph files that Git 2.31+ generate, and the other way around.
  Users will be able to remove "old" files and regenerate them, and
  shouldn't use a mixed environment.

and know that those users knew this might happen.

But certainly, if we can avoid it altogether by changing behavior
already in 2.29, that would be better.

[3] https://lore.kernel.org/git/20200806202358.2265705-1-martin.agren@gmail.com/

> (By "we" I mean that I would try to do this work in a way that minimizes
> conflicts with the current commit-graph work in flight [1] [2].)

None of those seems to touch `oid_version()`, so if we can just tweak
that function to return 1 or 2 instead of always 1, I guess that's one
way.

> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/pull.676.v2.git.1596941624.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/
>
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/git/cover.1597178914.git.me@ttaylorr.com/
>
> >
> > -  1-byte Hash Version (1 = SHA-1)
> > -      We infer the hash length (H) from this value.
> > +  1-byte Hash Version (1 = SHA-1 in SHA-1 repo, SHA-256 in SHA-256 repo)
> > +      We infer the hash length (H) from the hash algo derived from this value.
>
> If we are _not_ changing the format to have a meaningful value in
> this byte, then this documentation should be updated to state that
> this byte must always have value 1, as it does not provide any
> information.

We could still go

  1 means whatever extensions.objectFormat says,
  2 means SHA-1,
  3 means SHA-256,
  ...

But maybe that would just be crazy.

Thanks for all your comments
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-14 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-13 22:48 [PATCH 0/2] Documentation updates for SHA-256 brian m. carlson
2020-08-13 22:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs: document SHA-256 pack and indices brian m. carlson
2020-08-14  2:26   ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-13 22:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs: fix step in transition plan brian m. carlson
2020-08-14 12:21   ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-14  2:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] Documentation updates for SHA-256 Derrick Stolee
2020-08-14  4:47   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 20:20     ` brian m. carlson
2020-08-14 20:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 12:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] more SHA-256 documentation Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 12:21   ` [PATCH 1/5] http-protocol.txt: document SHA-256 "want"/"have" format Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 17:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 20:23       ` brian m. carlson
2020-08-14 20:32         ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 20:39         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 20:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 12:21   ` [PATCH 2/5] index-format.txt: document SHA-256 index format Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 12:28     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-14 14:05       ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 12:21   ` [PATCH 3/5] protocol-capabilities.txt: clarify "allow-x-sha1-in-want" re SHA-256 Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 12:31     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-14 14:05       ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 17:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 20:35       ` Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 20:43         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-08-14 12:21   ` [PATCH 4/5] shallow.txt: document SHA-256 shallow format Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 12:21   ` [PATCH 5/5] commit-graph-format.txt: fix "Hash Version" description Martin Ågren
2020-08-14 12:37     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-08-14 14:10       ` Martin Ågren [this message]
2020-08-14 20:28   ` [PATCH 0/5] more SHA-256 documentation brian m. carlson
2020-08-15 16:05   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Martin Ågren
2020-08-15 16:05     ` [PATCH v2 1/4] http-protocol.txt: document SHA-256 "want"/"have" format Martin Ågren
2020-08-15 16:06     ` [PATCH v2 2/4] index-format.txt: document SHA-256 index format Martin Ågren
2020-08-15 16:06     ` [PATCH v2 3/4] protocol-capabilities.txt: clarify "allow-x-sha1-in-want" re SHA-256 Martin Ågren
2020-08-15 16:06     ` [PATCH v2 4/4] shallow.txt: document SHA-256 shallow format Martin Ågren

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