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From: "Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kaartic Sivaraam <kaartic.sivaraam@gmail.com>,
	Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] t/known-leaky: add list of known-leaky test scripts
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 21:44:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN0heSoDJdA3tTVZZ=imj8+z5FeqKy00dA2kWP4CAC4=+7VBiw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180219212937.GB9748@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On 19 February 2018 at 22:29, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:56:37PM +0100, Martin Ågren wrote:
>
>> Here's what a list of known leaks might look like. It feels a bit
>> awkward to post a known-incomplete list (I don't run all tests). Duy
>> offered to pick up the ball if I gave up, maybe you could complete and
>> post this as your own? :-? Even if I (or others) can't reproduce the
>> complete list locally, regressions will be trivial to find, and newly
>> leak-free tests fairly easy to notice.
>
> I didn't think about that when I posted my scripts. In general, it's OK
> to me if you miss a script when you generate the "leaky" list. But if
> you skip it, you cannot say whether it is leaky or not, and should
> probably neither add nor remove it from the known-leaky list. So I think
> the second shell snippet needs to become a little more clever about
> skipped test scripts.
>
> Even that isn't 100% fool-proof, as some individual tests may be skipped
> or not skipped on various platforms. But it may be enough in practice
> (and eventually we'd have no known-leaky tests, of course ;) ).

All good points.

> Or alternatively, we could just not bother with checking this into the
> repository, and it becomes a local thing for people interested in
> leak-testing. What's the value in having a shared known-leaky list,
> especially if we don't expect most people to run it.

This sums up my feeling about this.

> I guess it lets us add a Travis job to do the leak-checking, which might
> get more coverage. So maybe if we do have an in-repo known-leaky, it
> should match some canonical Travis environment. That won't give us
> complete coverage, but at this point we're just trying to notice
> low-hanging fruit.

Right. A Travis job to get non-complete but consistent data would be
"nice" (TM), but at this point it would perhaps just result in
blacklist-churning. At some point, adding/removing entries in a
blacklist will have some signal-value and psychology to it, but right
now it might just be noise. (My patch adds an incomplete blacklist of
539 scripts...)

For finding this sort of low-hanging fruit (windfall?) any local
scripting and greping will do. I sort of hesitate wasting community CPU
cycles on something which might be appreciated, in theory, but that
doesn't have enough attention to move beyond "every now and then,
something is fixed, but just as often, tests gain leaks and the
blacklist gains entries".

To sum up: I probably won't be looking into Travis-ing such a blacklist
in the near future.

Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-20 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-24  9:53 [PATCH 0/7] nd/worktree-move reboot Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 1/7] worktree.c: add validate_worktree() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 2/7] worktree.c: add update_worktree_location() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-02  8:23   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-02-02  9:35     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 3/7] worktree move: new command Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-02  9:15   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-02-02 11:23     ` Eric Sunshine
2018-02-05 13:28       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-06  2:13         ` Jeff King
2018-02-06 20:05           ` Martin Ågren
2018-02-12  9:56             ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-12 22:15               ` Martin Ågren
2018-02-13  0:27                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-14  3:16                   ` Jeff King
2018-02-14  9:07                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-02-14 17:35                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-02-14 21:56                         ` [PATCH] t/known-leaky: add list of known-leaky test scripts Martin Ågren
2018-02-19 21:29                           ` Jeff King
2018-02-20 20:44                             ` Martin Ågren [this message]
2018-02-20 21:08                               ` Jeff King
2018-02-21 16:53                               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-02-21 18:25                                 ` Jeff King
2018-02-25  3:48                               ` Kaartic Sivaraam
2018-02-26 21:22                                 ` Martin Ågren
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 4/7] worktree move: accept destination as directory Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-02  9:35   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] worktree move: refuse to move worktrees with submodules Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-02 10:06   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 6/7] worktree remove: new command Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-02 11:47   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-02-12  9:26     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-24  9:53 ` [PATCH 7/7] worktree remove: allow it when $GIT_WORK_TREE is already gone Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-02 12:59   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-01-24 20:42 ` [PATCH 0/7] nd/worktree-move reboot Junio C Hamano
2018-02-12  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 " Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 1/7] worktree.c: add validate_worktree() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 2/7] worktree.c: add update_worktree_location() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 3/7] worktree move: new command Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 4/7] worktree move: accept destination as directory Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 5/7] worktree move: refuse to move worktrees with submodules Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 6/7] worktree remove: new command Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-02-12  9:49   ` [PATCH v2 7/7] worktree remove: allow it when $GIT_WORK_TREE is already gone Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-03-04  5:26   ` [PATCH] t2028: fix minor error and issues in newly-added "worktree move" tests Eric Sunshine
2018-03-05  9:32     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-03-05 12:48     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-03-05 18:37       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-03-05 18:44         ` Eric Sunshine
2018-03-04  5:36   ` [PATCH v2 0/7] nd/worktree-move reboot Eric Sunshine

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