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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: "D.E. Goodman-Wilson" <don@goodman-wilson.com>
Cc: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Git <git@vger.kernel.org>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: The master branch rename, and avoiding another v1.6.0 git-foo fiasco
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 00:47:23 -0600
Message-ID: <CAMP44s1vx==-0Sh_dN66k-u_LwUSqQRn+ckMrYMHhz7i8ZVr2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nbCkLegnP_kb-16UzAuDChE0p68ZtRD_3ZN3o3BJHYBYpUxTWuKjvhCSKT7zRZl_sckHrkyJl2fwePFUBR-HtDcEV0rHuac6Ygg-FrrYsYI=@goodman-wilson.com>

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:02 AM D.E. Goodman-Wilson
<don@goodman-wilson.com> wrote:
> > Did we hear the testimony of a single black person that was offended
> by the word?
>
> > Nobody affected by this change actually asked for this change
>
> Five minutes searching Twitter will reveal a great number of Black git users championing this change.

This is anecdotal evidence.

We all live in our own digital bubble. Every person's Twitter feed is
different, and Google search results depend on where you live, and
your past searches.

You may find "a great number" of users that match that criteria, what
I find is only people criticizing the move, and after five minutes I
haven't found a single black person actually offended by the current
name.

> How is reopening this discussion anything but a distraction?

This discussion never happened.

Everyone in the June thread argued about the different names of the
potential branch, and the culture war implications. Virtually *nobody*
argued about the manner of implementation: deprecation period, clear
warnings, Git 3.0 consideration.

I'd argue *that* was the distraction.

In 2008 people started multiple threads *after* the sudden change to
git-foo without warning happened.

If we do the same, this discussion will happen again. I'm just the
canary in the coal mine giving you a heads up.

Choosing to ignore the very real danger doesn't make the very real
danger go away, you are just delaying it and making it potentially
bigger. You choose to ignore the canary at your own peril. This is
precisely what happened in 2008.

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-13  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-13  0:04 Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13  1:01 ` brian m. carlson
2020-11-13  4:27   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13  5:14     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-13  6:28       ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13 14:58         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-13 15:37           ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13 16:08           ` Michal Suchánek
2020-11-14 14:19           ` Lukasz Niemier
2020-11-15  3:46             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-15  4:27               ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-19  1:02               ` Brandon Casey
2020-11-19  4:16                 ` Peter Hadlaw
2020-11-19 13:37                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-11-19 21:25                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-19 23:29                     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-20 19:14                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-11-19 21:29                   ` Brandon Casey
2020-11-20  0:34                     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13  6:09     ` Don Goodman-Wilson
     [not found]     ` <nbCkLegnP_kb-16UzAuDChE0p68ZtRD_3ZN3o3BJHYBYpUxTWuKjvhCSKT7zRZl_sckHrkyJl2fwePFUBR-HtDcEV0rHuac6Ygg-FrrYsYI=@goodman-wilson.com>
2020-11-13  6:47       ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2020-11-13 13:53         ` Philippe Blain
2020-11-13 15:49           ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 15:39           ` Whinis
2020-11-20 18:38     ` Ismael Luceno

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