From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Felipe Contreras Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 22:34:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1370643409-3431-3-git-send-email-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <20130608164902.GA3109@elie.Belkin> <20130608173447.GA4381@elie.Belkin> <20130609014049.GA10375@google.com> <20130609032143.GA18678@google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Duy Nguyen , Git Mailing List , Junio C Hamano , Brandon Casey , Ramkumar Ramachandra To: Jonathan Nieder X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Jun 09 05:34:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.180.67]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UlWOf-00054z-K7 for gcvg-git-2@plane.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 05:34:25 +0200 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751639Ab3FIDeR (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jun 2013 23:34:17 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com ([209.85.215.42]:34851 "EHLO mail-la0-f42.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751432Ab3FIDeQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jun 2013 23:34:16 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id eb20so4801530lab.1 for ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=70xP0Cg2ybciFeZLV/u+Ce9SDEK9gTJcTpncW4/rOYU=; b=HHbq+kYCpmBwhc22YL6jodLwS18KwXmLWfV7ngm3CuEh5DvII+siWcg9W9K5aLNDBK 6qzAE4hIFiR6vM3ANTuDu543a4JVwSzjsTpbp2kEdDLsvDyOaVxFhfM3uEMrcPnVeLhJ bLvrm59QED/IfVssH9/oJ9MAOJaWPAVcrLuxiQzOGN4CaJY+YcAs03lTN3KQ2MRBr1ST IVpuw1yBPAQJCuL8B7A03OMUAaHDiBOHio6yBhJqZqncybhY33mih/uWOCwqEBd5qysG y+zZ3HiiJVlE79AeoFpdvORFYMpIjbdOQ5qQXIcNUxw8veBtGUQcRgc8IzHOwUvN6L41 wo9w== X-Received: by 10.112.219.133 with SMTP id po5mr3894447lbc.80.1370748854535; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 20:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.59.202 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 20:34:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130609032143.GA18678@google.com> Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Felipe Contreras wrote: > >> A collegial work environment is overrated, and proof of that the Linux >> kernel, where honest and straight talk is the bread and butter of the >> mailing list. > > An aside, since it doesn't bear too much on the topic at hand: > > For what it's worth, in my experience the people working on the kernel > are quite sensible and friendly on-list. They are professional. When they need to be straight-forward, they are, even if that hurts the feelings of the colleagues. > Probably you are referring to some high-profile cases of flames, No, I'm not. Heated discussions happen all the time, specially when the issue at hand is important. > I do not think the way the list works normally is a > counterexample to common decency being useful. Of course you wouldn't, but you are purposely ignoring the facts. The Linux kernel mailing lists concentrates on *the code*; he who writes the code has a voice, he who only has words doesn't. Personal beefs are not relevant. When there's something horribly wrong with the code, so are the responses. > So no, I don't find "But they are mean, and look how well they are > doing!" to be a compelling argument here. Because you dismiss the premise a priori. -- Felipe Contreras