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From: Jerry Zhang <jerry@skydio.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/7] builtin: patch-id: add --include-whitespace as a command mode
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:55:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMKO5CuCbyFt739GOzcvFn92i8vNqK6vgJqvT8E5zs=kJ1+H=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqbkqe6qv4.fsf@gitster.g>

On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 2:24 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> "Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > +--include-whitespace::
> > +     Use the "stable" algorithm described below and also don't strip whitespace
> > +     from lines when calculating the patch-id.
> > +
> > +     This is the default if patchid.includeWhitespace is true and implies
> > +     patchid.stable.
>
> This seems very much orthogonal to "--stable/--unstable.
>
> Because the "--stable" variant is more expensive than "--unstable",
I didn't realize it was more expensive, I'm assuming you mean in terms
of time, maybe it does
slightly more hashing operations under the hood?  I tried timing some
runs locally
and they were a wash:

time /bin/sh -c "git show | git patch-id --stable"
dddea79ee68d62a32cf8c0d7bb6691bcd0445628
4677fe858366a51ff3c5a0c0893418e32e934262

real 0m0.011s
user 0m0.003s
sys 0m0.012s
time /bin/sh -c "git show | git patch-id"
6602a3b2fe8b17d5bc295c2703901ad3e18eee18
4677fe858366a51ff3c5a0c0893418e32e934262

real 0m0.012s
user 0m0.009s
sys 0m0.007s

The operation is probably bound by process / disk overhead quite a bit
and a small
amount of cpu use wouldn't really be user-visible. Based on these
results I don't think
a user would choose --unstable just for the speed gain (if any).

> I am not sure why such an implication is a good thing to have.  Why
> can we not have
>
>     --include-whitespace --stable
>     --include-whitespace --unstable
>
> both combinations valid?
If you accept my point above, then a user would only choose
"--unstable" if they actually
had a need for backwards compatibility, such as for a persistent
database. Trying to include
whitespace on top of that would break the compatibility they're
relying on. So my conclusion was
that there isn't any usecase for the combination "--include-whitespace
--unstable", and it's better for
usability and not needing to always maintain compatibility if we don't
expose it to users at all.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-14 22:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-20  5:58 [PATCH 0/2] update internal patch-id to use "stable" algorithm Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20  5:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] patch-id: fix stable patch id for binary / header-only Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20  5:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] patch-id: use stable patch-id for rebases Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20  6:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] update internal patch-id to use "stable" algorithm Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20  6:20   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] patch-id: fix stable patch id for binary / header-only Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-09-20  6:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] patch-id: use stable patch-id for rebases Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14  8:56   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] patch-id fixes and improvements Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] patch-id: fix stable patch id for binary / header-only Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] patch-id: use stable patch-id for rebases Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] builtin: patch-id: fix patch-id with binary diffs Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 17:13       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14 22:33         ` Jerry Zhang
2022-10-14 21:12       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14 22:34         ` Jerry Zhang
2022-10-17 15:23           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] patch-id: fix patch-id for mode changes Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:17       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] builtin: patch-id: add --include-whitespace as a command mode Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 21:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14 22:55         ` Jerry Zhang [this message]
2022-10-17 15:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-18 22:12           ` Jerry Zhang
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] builtin: patch-id: remove unused diff-tree prefix Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-14 22:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-14  8:56     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] documentation: format-patch: clarify requirements for patch-ids to match Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-17 15:18       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-18 21:57         ` Jerry Zhang
2022-10-19 16:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-20 23:16     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] patch-id fixes and improvements Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 23:16       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] patch-id: fix stable patch id for binary / header-only Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 23:16       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] patch-id: use stable patch-id for rebases Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 23:16       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] builtin: patch-id: fix patch-id with binary diffs Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 23:16       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] patch-id: fix patch-id for mode changes Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 23:16       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] builtin: patch-id: add --verbatim as a command mode Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-20 23:16       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] builtin: patch-id: remove unused diff-tree prefix Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-21  9:33         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-24 20:07       ` [PATCH v5 0/6] patch-id fixes and improvements Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:07         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] patch-id: fix stable patch id for binary / header-only Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:07         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] patch-id: use stable patch-id for rebases Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:07         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] builtin: patch-id: fix patch-id with binary diffs Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:07         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] patch-id: fix patch-id for mode changes Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:07         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] builtin: patch-id: add --verbatim as a command mode Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 20:07         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] builtin: patch-id: remove unused diff-tree prefix Jerry Zhang via GitGitGadget
2022-10-24 22:55         ` [PATCH v5 0/6] patch-id fixes and improvements Junio C Hamano
2022-09-21 19:16 ` [PATCH 0/2] update internal patch-id to use "stable" algorithm Junio C Hamano
2022-09-21 20:59   ` Jerry Zhang

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