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From: "Patricia B. C." <pati.camsky@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Martin von Zweigbergk <martinvonz@gmail.com>,
	Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RES: Can git change?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:32:05 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8LAYVp0XtdFbnVB6fzpje5a3RkU6+pFW81VpCFBPMe46m7fw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqft2owjb9.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

Hey!
Thank you very much, guys, for the detailed explanation, I will bring
those points to the discussion topic :D
I do agree with you that we should prepare the students for "real
world" projects and not only working locally.
Hopefully, there will be more people who agree with me than people who
want to stick with the old fashioned way :)

Thanks again!
Patricia Camiansky.

Em seg., 25 de jan. de 2021 às 22:58, Junio C Hamano
<gitster@pobox.com> escreveu:
>
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
>
> > And I have to admit that I am somewhat concerned about your students if
> > one of their instructors thinks that their education shouldn't prepare
> > them for more than working locally on their computers. Aren't they at all
> > interested in preparing the students for life after university? If so,
> > they will most certainly be affected by GitHub's decision.
>
> GitHub's decision will most affect projects that haven't started
> yet, simply because they won't have to incur any "transition" cost
> the existing projects may have to consider.  And given enough time,
> old projects die out and there will be more new projects than the
> projects we currently have, hopefully.
>
> Until that happens, they would be affected more by decision by the
> projects they interact with, as it is most convenient if your local
> name matches the name the upstream uses.  And the versions of Git
> way before people started talking about 'master' and 'main' have
> long been prepared for that, and we've been closing possible gaps in
> the recent versions.  "git clone" would notice what name the upstream
> uses and uses the same name locally.
>
> Even when they work locally, they'll start getting 'main' from their
> Git soon, and that would become consistent with the name that their
> "upstream" projects are likely to choose due to this "industry wide"
> push.
>
>
> > Any repository created on GitHub will have that branch name by default.
> > Likewise on Azure DevOps. I fully expect the other hosters to follow at
> > some stage, and also for `git init` to change the default in a future
> > version (I am working toward that goal).
> > ...
> > Maybe Git itself is not a good example for that. Bigger projects face
> > dramatically bigger challenges replacing the default branch name because
> > of the short term disruption caused by it. Nevertheless, a growing number
> > of projects have already renamed their default branch, such as Snowpack
> > (https://github.com/snowpackjs/snowpack) and the react-refresh webpack
> > plugin (https://github.com/pmmmwh/react-refresh-webpack-plugin) but also
> > bigger ones such as LLVM (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project).
>
> Yes, thanks for giving Patricia and likeminded souls more usable
> ammunition than just us ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-26 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-22 12:59 Can git change? Patricia B. C.
2021-01-22 13:31 ` Christian Couder
2021-01-22 18:46   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-22 22:43     ` Martin von Zweigbergk
2021-01-23  2:27       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-23 12:56         ` RES: " Patricia B. C.
2021-01-25 16:28           ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-01-26  1:58             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 12:32               ` Patricia B. C. [this message]
2021-03-09 14:54               ` Daniel Gruesso
     [not found]             ` <CAFdpPnBG==5L6hwH6h2JTFtYVQqLZUcCi4+wzL_cpKKg_X3yoA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-10 21:03               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-10 21:39                 ` Junio C Hamano

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