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From: Shaoxuan Yuan <shaoxuan.yuan02@gmail.com>
To: Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, derrickstolee@github.com, newren@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [WIP v2 5/5] mv: use update_sparsity() after touching sparse contents
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 10:15:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJyCBOS3AKPT43ERsfLetSHRP_tciNvok-MSg5d=buStKPMxYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6375c172-82cb-dffc-875f-e5e742d5e49e@github.com>

On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 12:42 AM Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com> wrote:
*Truncated messages*
> > For me, the alternative provides a less frustrating experience.
> >
> > Since it is more explicit (giving a message and directly saying NO).
> >> Also, the `sparse-checkout` users should expect the moved file to be
> > missing in the working tree, as opposed to being present.
> >
>
> Good point, since the sparseness of the destination file would be different
> depending on whether it had local modifications or not (with no indication
> from 'mv' of the different treatment).
>
> If you're interested, maybe there's a middle-ground option? Suppose you want
> to move a file 'file1' to an out-of-cone location:
>
> 1. If 'file1' is clean, regardless of use of '--force', move the file & make
>    it sparse.
> 2. If 'file1' is *not* clean and '--force' is *not* used, refuse to move the
>    file (with a "Path 'file1' not uptodate; will not move. Use '--force' to
>    override." type of error).
> 3. If 'file1' is *not* clean and '--force' is used, move the file but do not
>    make it sparse.
>
> That way, '--force' really does force the move to happen, but users are
> generally warned against it. I'm still not sure what the "right" approach
> is, but to your point I think it should err on the side of not surprising
> the user.

I generally think this middle-ground option is good. Though I think the sort
of options that "messing with sparse contents" should be handled by
'--sparse', instead
of '--force', since the latter is used to "force move/rename even if
target exists".
Mixing the usage may cause syntax confusion?

> > And the tweaked rule suggested by Junio [1] might need an extra
> >  `git sparse-checkout reapply` to re-sparsify the file that moved out-of-cone
> > after staging its change?
> >
>
> Just so I understand correctly, do you mean 'git sparse-checkout reapply'
> *as part of* the 'mv' operation? Or are you thinking that a user might want
> to manually run 'git sparse-checkout reapply' after running 'mv'?
>
> If it's the former (internally calling 'git sparse-checkout reapply' in
> 'mv'), then no, you wouldn't want to do that. In Junio's suggestion, he said
> (emphasis mine):
>
> > When a dirty path is moved out of cone, we would trigger the
> > "SKIP_WORKTREE automatically disabled" behaviour" *and that would be a
> > good thing, I imagine?*
>
> We don't want the file moved out-of-cone to be sparse again because it has
> local (on-disk) modifications that would disappear (since a file needs to be
> removed from disk to be "sparse" in the eyes of 'sparse-checkout'). It's
> *completely valid* behavior to have an out-of-cone file become non-sparse if
> a user does something to cause that; it doesn't cause any bugs/corruption
> with the repo. And, even if you did want to make the file sparse, it should
> be done by manually setting 'SKIP_WORKTREE' and individually removing the
> file from disk (for all the reasons I mentioned in my upthread comment [1]).
>
> On the other hand, if you're talking about a user manually running 'git
> sparse-checkout reapply' after the fact, that wouldn't work either - they'd
> get an error:
> warning: The following paths are not up to date and were left despite sparse patterns:
>         <out-of-cone modified file>

This is what I meant, a user manually running `git sparse-checkout reapply`.
Though I did say users should only do this "after staging its change".

I propose this solution which sounds good to me:

1. If 'file1' is clean, iff with the use of '--sparse', move the file & make
    it sparse.
2. If 'file1' is dirty, iff with the use of '--sparse', move the file
& *do not* make
    it sparse, instead advise something like
    "file1 is not up to date, keep it non-sparse.
    Stage file1 then run `git sparse-checkout reapply` to re-sparsify it."

> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/077a0579-903e-32ad-029c-48572d471c84@github.com/
>
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqq8rqm3fxa.fsf@gitster.g/
> >
-- 
Thanks & Regards,
Shaoxuan

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-17  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-31  9:17 [WIP v1 0/4] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 1/4] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 16:39   ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 14:30     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 2/4] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 10:25   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01  3:51     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 21:28   ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 12:49     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-01 14:49       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-04-04  7:25         ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-04  7:49           ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-04 12:43             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 3/4] mv: add advise_to_reapply hint for moving file into cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 10:30   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-01  4:00     ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-01  8:02       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-04-03  2:01         ` Eric Sunshine
2022-03-31 21:56   ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 14:55   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-03-31  9:17 ` [WIP v1 4/4] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 10:33   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-03-31 22:11   ` Victoria Dye
2022-03-31  9:28 ` [WIP v1 0/4] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-03-31 22:21 ` Victoria Dye
2022-04-01 12:18   ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-04-08 12:22 ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 10:07 ` [WIP v2 0/5] " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 1/5] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 12:07     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-27 14:48     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 15:51     ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 2/5] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 15:13     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 22:38       ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-31  8:06       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 3/5] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 22:04     ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 4/5] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 15:27     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-31  9:56       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-31 15:49         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-05-27 10:08   ` [WIP v2 5/5] mv: use update_sparsity() after touching sparse contents Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-05-27 12:10     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-27 19:36     ` Victoria Dye
2022-05-27 19:59       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-27 21:24         ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-16 13:51           ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-16 16:42             ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-17  2:15               ` Shaoxuan Yuan [this message]
2022-06-19  3:25 ` [WIP v3 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 1/7] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 21:23     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 2/7] mv: decouple if/else-if checks using goto Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 3/7] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 4/7] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 5/7] mv: use flags mode for update_mode Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 22:32     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-22  9:37       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 6/7] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 22:55     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-19  3:25   ` [WIP v3 7/7] mv: update sparsity after moving from out-of-cone to in-cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-21 23:11     ` Victoria Dye
2022-06-21 23:30   ` [WIP v3 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Victoria Dye
2022-06-23 15:06     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 16:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-24  8:26         ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41 ` [PATCH v4 " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] mv: update sparsity after moving from out-of-cone to in-cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 15:08     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-24  8:04       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-27 13:55         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] mv: decouple if/else-if checks using goto Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] mv: use flags mode for update_mode Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 15:10     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 11:41   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-23 15:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-24  7:57       ` Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-27 13:59         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 15:16   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Derrick Stolee
2022-06-23 18:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-06-30  2:37 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 1/8] t7002: add tests for moving out-of-cone file/directory Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 2/8] t1092: mv directory from out-of-cone to in-cone Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 3/8] mv: update sparsity after moving " Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 4/8] mv: decouple if/else-if checks using goto Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 5/8] mv: check if out-of-cone file exists in index with SKIP_WORKTREE bit Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 6/8] mv: check if <destination> exists in index to handle overwriting Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 7/8] mv: use flags mode for update_mode Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-06-30  2:37   ` [PATCH v5 8/8] mv: add check_dir_in_index() and solve general dir check issue Shaoxuan Yuan
2022-07-01 19:43   ` [PATCH v5 0/8] mv: fix out-of-cone file/directory move logic Derrick Stolee
2022-07-01 21:50     ` Junio C Hamano

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