From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS53758 23.128.96.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755DA1F4B4 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S241823AbhDSTud (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:50:33 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:60940 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S239315AbhDSTuc (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:50:32 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-x231.google.com (mail-lj1-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::231]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75E16C06174A for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x231.google.com with SMTP id u25so2474139ljg.7 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1eXU9UHOChKg8kla6r39mJOAwKdZxqeBtRcbKBV5Vfw=; b=gPaoj40NiSk0Ggq21SNSqhWTFpjAoobVel0tfN7AzEd901blygWP0dpWMVVHe4cwP/ 24x7WxRtPmUVZlaOmFHDr3ztqJXWYRAEWramuqmJUWE3EzESKIhJPDMLaRN+wLxL4Qit EuDNkzWhCUGFFadovrrV/6evP3c+DkhNOK1ffqhJ1z/G9jb7blDxFHjEFWzRTjvMK64K DH/suABBR7QE73oQuRCBWEXl0TddZUQ1C/qMSxJ3IN25rftIDqgHJgy+4ZhV2WgFm3+z 5GkHbiCrnHw8iYnUd/8PH6H64stT45j+YC+q+i4i9/TZJ1TqEffx5+g9DBD2CAxnmL6P 1plA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1eXU9UHOChKg8kla6r39mJOAwKdZxqeBtRcbKBV5Vfw=; b=Ff86Rbe7AMy7H5Tf8ht4z7lkV5XOZT8C8VwVmAd2MjcYL7+gAKsDXOVL3M7CHXVBeb Q3rK0NsQ5VjV/HrIIwNf1te4kpnVUQHZifGb8LSvHLok/I6zUYlAUaz6hWE1vvLg9x/D m71UGE277lKLrtUlcubDjGy7JcwUigWErzKJI7O/eVPm8jPvGBOJgd4c5tQek76UIJm4 GhjNkzcEs5pB1eGyTfYQL55jJMjtT3+UUMF4M9wAWM4WKOViXiun7swy+cRNqypPieky LmxuAIw4acebF1/kx+5eDX7IEKn6cmY/LFYu6M406s6iSnwH/pmrod3FDb3JVINZ2G+x /JRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532qXCCo04sLPhAh/wXFCzc95Eshqe+D3A3JlJhzf5JFk31h+1sx r2FyPnsrPhtCTRtiMsYjZWTc2lFcwQ+y7SzaAdk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz5CoVmP6Kmug8mRKd/b3ms/E9g3IjHXwN9I5qVi0ZrGN075d5FwKaqM8U3N8MDS4HmjZxUjGx1ZlgoDtIXrQ8= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:a172:: with SMTP id u18mr12521248ljl.382.1618861799948; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <22a0a383-0ae1-c7d1-75f7-7dfdfe5fb504@gmail.com> <87fszn48lh.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> <20210419193600.GA19186@dcvr> In-Reply-To: <20210419193600.GA19186@dcvr> From: Sebastian Schuberth Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 21:49:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pain points in Git's patch flow To: Eric Wong Cc: =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , Git Mailing List , patchwork@lists.ozlabs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 9:36 PM Eric Wong wrote: > > Also, I wouldn't say I "gave up in frustration". It was a mostly > > unemotional decision on which of the many OSS projects I contribute to > > my rare spare time is spent best. > > I guess some things aren't for everybody. When I started > git-svn, I never expected git to be the right tool for others. > I figured most folks could just continue using SVN since they > seem to like centralized things or at least have some sort of > "authority" to look to. > > I'm largely uninvolved with git nowadays since I'm reasonably > satisfied with how it works; that and I prefer scripting > languages rather than ahead-of-time languages. True, since quite a while I'm also at a point where I'm satisfied with how Git (for Windows) works, so I also ceased to see the need to contribute. That's indeed another reason I forgot to mention. > To watch a particular filename, the "dfn:" prefix may be used. > The prefixes supported for a particular instance are documented in > , and you > can watch multiple files by combining with "OR". Thanks for pointing out these interesting features, I wasn't aware of them. > I don't think any sort of radicle "flag day" or tool mandate is > going to fly. I seem to recall at least one prominent Linux > kernel hacker doesn't even use git; though I'm not sure if > that's still the case. Like you said in the beginning, I guess some things aren't for everybody. > Email is already well-established with a good amount of small > players, and plain-text is relatively inexpensive. So it seems > best to build off the only halfway-decentralized thing we have > in wide use, rather than trying to start from scratch. While I can understand that conservative approach for a community around a tool as important as Git, I still fear that only ever sticking to technology that is already in wide use will hinder to look over the rim of the tea cup. -- Sebastian Schuberth