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From: Bryan Turner <bturner@atlassian.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>,
	Sami Boukortt <sami@boukortt.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New git-rebase backend: no way to drop already-empty commits
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 12:43:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGyf7-GNHPB_9yDQhwzt5VjEe3-SOPM-DAntTojo+zmLoCzVzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqh7xvtby2.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 10:58 AM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Yes, from the manpage:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > and
> >
> > """
> > Empty commits
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > The apply backend unfortunately drops intentionally empty commits, i.e.
> > commits that started empty, though these are rare in practice.  It
> > also drops commits that become empty and has no option for controlling
> > this behavior.
>
> This is a very good illustration that shows why "switch the default
> and retire the apply backend" deserves to be cooked for quite a long
> time.  The 'apply' dropping empty commits may have looked like an
> 'unfortunate' thing to whoever wrote the above paragraph in the
> documentation, but it clearly shows that person (me included) did
> not think of the ramifications deeply enough that there may be valid
> workflows that _depend_ on the behaviour.
>
> As we will be dropping 'apply' that could be used as an escape
> hatch, before we do so, we should teach the other backends an
> alternate escape hatch to help those who have been depending on the
> behaviour of 'apply' that discards the empty ones, whether they
> become empty, or they are empty from the beginning.  I think the
> "has contents originally but becomes empty" side is already taken
> care of, so we'd need to make sure it is easy to optionally discard
> the ones that are originally empty.

I wonder if the existing --empty could be extended, such that "drop"
was treated as a (deprecated?) synonym for "drop-new" (a new entry in
the list), with a new "drop-all". That way end users could pass
--empty=drop-all to get the old "apply" behavior with "merge".
Something like "--empty={drop-all,drop-new[,drop],keep,ask}::". A name
like "drop-all" seems more obvious/intuitive than simply "all" or
"always".

Just a thought from someone else who was also bitten by this behavior change.

>
> Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-07 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-07 16:30 New git-rebase backend: no way to drop already-empty commits Sami Boukortt
2020-04-07 16:53 ` Elijah Newren
2020-04-07 17:27   ` Sami Boukortt
2020-04-07 18:03     ` Elijah Newren
2020-04-07 18:16       ` Sami Boukortt
2020-04-07 18:29         ` Elijah Newren
2020-04-07 17:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-04-07 19:43     ` Bryan Turner [this message]
2020-04-07 19:45     ` Elijah Newren
2020-04-07 21:55       ` Junio C Hamano

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