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From: Stefan Beller <>
To: Duy Nguyen <>
Cc: git <>
Subject: Re: submodule support in git-bundle
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 12:00:41 -0700
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> > This offloading-to-CDN (or "mostly resumable clone" in the
> > sense that the communication with the server is minimal, and
> > you get most of your data via resumable http range-requests)
> > sounds like complete offtopic, but is one of the requirements
> > for the repo to submodule migration, hence I came to speak of it.
> Hm.. so what you're saying is, we could have a pack file that lists
> other (real) pack files and for the bundle case they are all in the
> same file. And "download from $THERE" in this case is "download at
> this file offset"? That might actually work.

We're conflating 2 things here.
This idea of CDN offloading has nothing to do with submodules, it's
just a general thing to improve the fetch protocol.
And the pointed at file doesn't need to be a "real" packfile, as long
as the bytestream at the end looks like a real packfile. For example
the bytes to get from $THERE would not need to have a pack header
(or if it had, I would ask you to omit the first bytes containing the header)
as I can give the header myself.

The idea for submodules is more along the lines of having "just"
multiple pack files in the stream. For the bundle case we would
probably not have redirection to $THERE in there, as it should
be self contained completely (we don't know if the bundle recipient
can access $THERE in a timely manner).

> > Did you have other things in mind, on a higher level?
> > e.g. querying the bundle and creating submodule bundles
> > based off the superproject bundle? 'git bundle create' could
> > learn the --recurse-submodules option, which then produces
> > multiple bundle files without changing the file formats.
> This is probably the simplest way to support submodules.

Yep, that sounds simplest, but I think it makes for bad UX.
(Multiple files, need to be kept in some order and applied correctly)

> I just
> haven't really thought much about it (the problem just came up to me
> like 2 hours ago). Two problems with this are convenience (I don't
> want to handle multiple files) and submodule info (which pack should
> be unbundled on which submodule?). But I suppose if "git bundle"
> produces a tarball of these bundle files then you solve both.

The tarball makes it one file and would naturally provide some
order. It feels iffy, I'd rather have multiple packs in the bundle.

> But of course there may be other and better options like what you
> described above. If in long term we have "pack with hyperlinks" anyway
> for resumable clone and other fancy stuff then reusing the same
> mechanism for bundles makes sense, less maintenance burden.

I think of the hyperlinks in packs as an orthogonal feature, but closely
nearby in code and implementation, which is why I brought it up.

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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-02 16:09 Duy Nguyen
2018-11-02 17:08 ` Stefan Beller
2018-11-02 18:34   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-11-02 19:00     ` Stefan Beller [this message]

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