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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	"Jeff Hostetler" <git@jeffhostetler.com>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/18] Multi-pack index (MIDX)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 12:16:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kajChFqJRxLAaFnUeikW28kJQXLj7JG6G3=Td4u-zxTwg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqtvvu4wr2.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com> writes:
>
>> And in that light, I'd like to propose a new naming scheme:
>>
>> (a) assume that we "tag" HEAD at the start of the rebase
>> (b) any abbreviation must be given as committish anchored to said ref:
>>
>> pick REBASE_HEAD~1 commit subject
>> pick REBASE_HEAD~2 distak the gostim
>> pick REBASE_HEAD~3 Document foo
>> pick REBASE_HEAD~4 Testing the star-gazer
>>
>> And as we have the full descriptiveness of the committishs there,
>> each commit can be described in a unique way using the graph relationship.
>> I am just throwing the name REBASE_HEAD out there to trigger some associations
>> ("similar to FETCH_HEAD"), but I dislike the name.
>>
>> (c) this would not solve the problem of mergy history, yet. For that we'd need
>>     to introduce more keywords, that allow us to move around in the DAG,
>>     such that we can reset to a specific revision or name revisions on the fly.
>>     So maybe all we need is "reset", "name" (== short lived tag),
>>     "merge" (rewrite parents of HEAD) to be expressive enough, but still keep
>>     the line oriented interface?
>
> It is correct to say that (c) is an issue that is not solved by (b),
> but with the current scheme, the commits are internally referenced
> by full object names, and just before it is presented to the end
> users, these names are abbreviated down to unique prefix.  The
> machinery expands these abbreviated names back to the full names
> before going forward, so it is not an issue that we are creating new
> commits during the rebase.
>
> Does it make it easier to read if we used ~$n notation based on a
> fixed point, instead of shortened unique object names?  What
> improvement is (b) trying to achieve?
>

Johannes wrote:
> I think a better alternative would be to introduce a new abbreviation mode
> that is *intended* to stop caring about unique abbreviations.
>
> In web interfaces, for example, it makes tons of sense to show, say, 8
> digits in link texts and have the full name in the actual link URL.

And that is what (b) would solve, as it is shorter than the full hash and
yet exact.

(c) was mostly speculation on top of (b) if we can take it any further.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-09 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-07 18:14 [RFC PATCH 00/18] Multi-pack index (MIDX) Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 01/18] docs: Multi-Pack Index (MIDX) Design Notes Derrick Stolee
2018-01-08 19:32   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-01-08 20:35     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-01-08 22:06       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 02/18] midx: specify midx file format Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 03/18] midx: create core.midx config setting Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 04/18] midx: write multi-pack indexes for an object list Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 05/18] midx: create midx builtin with --write mode Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 06/18] midx: add t5318-midx.sh test script Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 07/18] midx: teach midx --write to update midx-head Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 08/18] midx: teach git-midx to read midx file details Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 09/18] midx: find details of nth object in midx Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 10/18] midx: use existing midx when writing Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 11/18] midx: teach git-midx to clear midx files Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 12/18] midx: teach git-midx to delete expired files Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 13/18] t5318-midx.h: confirm git actions are stable Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 14/18] midx: load midx files when loading packs Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 15/18] midx: use midx for approximate object count Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 16/18] midx: nth_midxed_object_oid() and bsearch_midx() Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 17/18] sha1_name: use midx for abbreviations Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 18/18] packfile: use midx for object loads Derrick Stolee
2018-01-07 22:42 ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] Multi-pack index (MIDX) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-08  0:08   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-01-08 10:20     ` Jeff King
2018-01-08 10:27       ` Jeff King
2018-01-08 12:28         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-01-08 13:43       ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-01-09  6:50         ` Jeff King
2018-01-09 13:05           ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-01-09 19:51             ` Stefan Beller
2018-01-09 20:12               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-09 20:16                 ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2018-01-09 21:31                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-10 17:05               ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-01-10 10:57             ` Jeff King
2018-01-08 13:43       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-01-09  7:12         ` Jeff King
2018-01-08 11:43     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06  8:13     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 10:27       ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] unconditional O(1) SHA-1 abbreviation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 10:27       ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] config.c: use braces on multiple conditional arms Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 10:27       ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] sha1-name: add core.validateAbbrev & relative core.abbrev Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-06-06 12:04         ` Christian Couder
2018-06-06 11:24       ` [RFC PATCH 00/18] Multi-pack index (MIDX) Derrick Stolee
2018-01-10 18:25 ` Martin Fick
2018-01-10 19:39   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-01-10 21:01     ` Martin Fick

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