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From: Stefan Beller <>
To: Junio C Hamano <>
Cc: "SZEDER Gábor" <>,
	"Jeff King" <>, git <>,
	"Jonathan Tan" <>
Subject: Re: New semantic patches vs. in-flight topics [was: Re: [PATCH 00/19] Bring more repository handles into our code base]
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:26:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

> Stepping back a bit, I'd imagine in an ideal world where "make
> coccicheck" can be done instantaneously _and_ the spatch machinery
> is just as reliable as C compilers.
> [...]
> Now we do not live in that ideal world and [...]
>  such a series will have zero
> chance of landing in 'pu', unless we freeze the world.

I wonder if we could approximate the ideal world with
rerere+spatch a bit more:

1) I resend the series that includes "apply cocci patches"
    as the last patch and you queue it as usual

2) The first time such a series is merged, you'd merge
    HEAD^ (i.e. excluding the "apply the semantic patch)
    to pu instead. I view this as a yet-to-be invented mode
    then run spatch to reproduce the last patch into the
    dirty merge (which has pu and the last patch as parent)

    This step is done to 'pre-heat' the rerere cache.

3) Any further integration (e.g. rebuilding pu) would
    benefit from the hot rerere cache and very little work
    is actually required as the conflicts are resolved by rerere.

Am I overestimating or misunderstanding rerere here?

> What I _could_ do (and what I did do only for one round of pushing
> out 'pu') is to queue a coccinelle transformation at the tip of
> integration branches.  If "make coccicheck" ran in subsecond, I
> could even automate it in the script that is used to rebuild 'pu'
> every day, so that after merging each and every topic, do the "make
> coccicheck" and apply resulting .cocci.patch files and squash that
> into the merge commit.
> But with the current "make coccicheck" performance, that is not
> realistic.

Would it be realistic for next and master branch instead of pu?

I'd be wary for the master branch, as we may not want to rely on
spatch without review. (It can produce funny white space issues,
but seems to produce working/correct code)

> I am wondering if it is feasible to do it at the tip of 'pu' (which
> is rebuilt two to three times a day), 'next' (which is updated once
> or twice a week) and 'master'.

We could even optimize that, by checking if contrib/cocci/ has
changes for the new tip of next/master respectively.

Another thing I wonder is if we care about the distinction between
the (a) pending changes as described by SZEDER, as we introduce
these deliberately, whereas (b) undesirable code patterns
(e.g. free and null instead of FREE_AND_NULL macro) might be
caught and reported in pu/next and then someone learns from it.
Automatic rewriting the (b) cases seems not just as desirable as
(a), where we do it purely to avoid resolving merge conflicts by

> I find that your "pending" idea may be nicer, as it distributes the
> load.  Whoever wants to change the world order by updating the .cocci
> rules is primarily responsible for making it happen without breaking
> the world during the transition.  That's more scalable.

... and I think SZEDER considers the current world broken as
'make coccicheck' returns non-empty, so it sounds to me as if
the current transition is thought less-than-optimal.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-23  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-16 23:35 [PATCH 00/19] Bring more repository handles into our code base Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 01/19] sha1_file: allow read_object to read objects in arbitrary repositories Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 02/19] packfile: allow has_packed_and_bad to handle " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 03/19] object-store: allow read_object_file_extended to read from " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 04/19] object-store: prepare read_object_file to deal with " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 05/19] object-store: prepare has_{sha1, object}_file[_with_flags] to handle " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 06/19] object: parse_object to honor its repository argument Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 07/19] commit: allow parse_commit* to handle arbitrary repositories Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 08/19] commit-reach.c: allow paint_down_to_common " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 09/19] commit-reach.c: allow merge_bases_many " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 10/19] commit-reach.c: allow remove_redundant " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 11/19] commit-reach.c: allow get_merge_bases_many_0 " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 12/19] commit-reach: prepare get_merge_bases " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 13/19] commit-reach: prepare in_merge_bases[_many] " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 14/19] commit: prepare get_commit_buffer " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 15/19] commit: prepare repo_unuse_commit_buffer " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 16/19] commit: prepare logmsg_reencode " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 17/19] pretty: prepare format_commit_message " Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 18/19] submodule: use submodule repos for object lookup Stefan Beller
2018-10-19 20:37   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-10-25  9:14   ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-31 13:38   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-11-01 19:13     ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 19/19] submodule: don't add submodule as odb for push Stefan Beller
2018-10-19 20:39   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-10-17 12:41 ` [PATCH 00/19] Bring more repository handles into our code base Derrick Stolee
2018-10-17 17:53   ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-18 18:37     ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Bring the_repository into cmd_foo Stefan Beller
2018-10-18 18:37       ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] repository: have get_the_repository() to remove the_repository dependency Stefan Beller
2018-10-18 18:37       ` [RFC PATCH 2/2 (BREAKS BUILD)] builtin/merge-base.c: do not rely on the_repository any more Stefan Beller
2018-10-18 21:01       ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Bring the_repository into cmd_foo Jonathan Tan
2018-10-18 23:23         ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-19  7:23 ` [PATCH 00/19] Bring more repository handles into our code base Junio C Hamano
2018-10-22 17:39 ` New semantic patches vs. in-flight topics [was: Re: [PATCH 00/19] Bring more repository handles into our code base] SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-22 18:54   ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-25  1:59     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-25 19:25       ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-22 22:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23  0:26     ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2018-10-23  4:24       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23  9:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23 10:15       ` Carlo Arenas
2018-10-23 10:21         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-23 17:30       ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-24  1:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-25  5:39   ` Jeff King

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