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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Jacob Keller <jacob.keller@gmail.com>,
	Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Git mailing list <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] xdiff: implement empty line chunk heuristic
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 21:37:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kYSDGZ=H9c9tcjNn=GV8ZzUXXpr6LoWNkWe_vhPmfMAiw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160420041827.GA7627@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> [your original probably didn't make it to the list because of its 5MB
>  attachment; the list has a 100K limit; I'll try to quote liberally]
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 04:17:50PM -0700, Jacob Keller wrote:
>
>> I ran this version of the patch against the entire Linux kernel
>> history, as I figured this has a large batch of C code to try and spot
>> any issues.
>>
>> I ran something like the following command in bash
>>
>> $git rev-list HEAD | while read -r rev; do diff -F ^commit -u <(git
>> show --format="commit %H" --no-compaction-heuristic $rev) <(git show
>> --format="commit %H" --compaction-heuristic $rev); done >
>> heuristic.patch
>
> My earlier tests with the perl script were all done with "git log -p",
> which will not show anything at all for merges (and my script wouldn't
> know how to deal with combined diffs anyway). But I think this new patch
> _will_ kick in for combined diffs (because it is built on individual
> diffs). It will be interesting to see if this has any effect there, and
> what it looks like.
>
> We should be able to see it (on a small enough repository) with:
>
>   git log --format='commit %H' --cc --merges
>
> and comparing the before/after.
>
>> I've attached the file that I generated for the Linux history, it's
>> rather large so hopefully I can get some help to spot any differences.
>> The above approach will work for pretty much any repository, and works
>> better than trying to generate the entire thing first and then diff
>> (since that runs out of memory pretty fast).
>
> I don't think there is much point in generating a complete diff between
> the patches for every commit, when nobody can look at the whole thing.
> Unless we have automated tooling to find "interesting" bits (and
> certainly a tool to remove the boring "a comment got shifted by one"
> lines would help; those are all known improvements, but it's the _other_
> stuff we want to look).
>
> But if we are not using automated tooling to find the needle in the
> haystack, we might as well using sampling to make the dataset more
> manageable. Adding "--since=1.year.ago" is one way, though we may want
> to sample more randomly across time.
>
>> So far, I haven't spotted anything that would want me to disable it,
>> while I've spotted several cases where I felt that readability was
>> improved. It's somewhat difficult to spot though.
>
> I did find one case that I think is worse. Look at 857942fd1a in the
> kernel. It has a pattern like this:
>
>   ... surrounding code ...
>
>   function_one();
>   ... more surrounding code ...
>
> which becomes:
>
>   ... surrounding code ...
>
>   function_two();
>
>   ... more surrounding code
>
> Without the new heuristic, that looks like:
>
>   -function_one();
>   +function_two();
>   +
>
> but with it, it becomes:
>
>   +
>   +function_two();
>
>   -function_one();
>
> which is kind of weird. Having the two directly next to each other reads
> better to me. This is a pretty unusual diff, though, in that it did
> change the surrounding whitespace (and if you look further in the diff,
> the identical change is made elsewhere _without_ touching the
> whitespace). So this is kind of an anomaly. And IMHO the weirdness here
> is outweighed by the vast number of improvements elsewhere.

The new implementation supports the flags for ignoring white space, too.

>
> -Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-20  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-19 15:21 [PATCHv5 0/2] xdiff: implement empty line chunk heuristic Stefan Beller
2016-04-19 15:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] xdiff: add recs_match helper function Stefan Beller
2016-04-19 15:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] xdiff: implement empty line chunk heuristic Stefan Beller
     [not found]   ` <CA+P7+xoqn3fxEZGn02ST1XV-2UpQGr3iwV-37R8pakFJy_9n0w@mail.gmail.com>
2016-04-20  4:18     ` Jeff King
2016-04-20  4:37       ` Jeff King
2016-04-20  4:37       ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2016-04-29 20:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-29 20:59         ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-29 22:18           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-29 22:35             ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-29 22:39               ` Keller, Jacob E
2016-04-29 22:44                 ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-29 22:48                   ` Keller, Jacob E
2016-05-02 17:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-05-02 17:45                       ` Stefan Beller
2016-05-02 18:02                       ` Jeff King
2016-05-03 17:55                         ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-30  3:06               ` Jeff King
2016-04-19 16:23 ` [PATCHv5 0/2] " Junio C Hamano
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-04-18 21:12 [PATCH 0/2 v4] " Stefan Beller
2016-04-18 21:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Stefan Beller
2016-04-18 22:04   ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-18 22:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-19  5:03   ` Jeff King
2016-04-19  6:47     ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-19  7:00       ` Jeff King
2016-04-19  7:05         ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-19 15:17     ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-19 17:06       ` Jeff King
2016-04-19 23:02         ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-19 23:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-20 13:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-20 16:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-20 16:17                 ` Jeff King
2016-04-20  6:00         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-19 16:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-15 23:01 [RFC PATCH, WAS: "weird diff output?" v3a 0/2] implement shortest line diff " Stefan Beller
2016-04-15 23:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] xdiff: implement empty line " Stefan Beller
2016-04-15 23:05   ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-15 23:32     ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-15 23:45       ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-16  0:49   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-16  0:59     ` Stefan Beller
2016-04-16  1:07     ` Jacob Keller
2016-04-18 19:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-04-18 19:33         ` Stefan Beller

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