From: Sergey Lapin <slapinid@gmail.com>
To: Don Goodman-Wilson <don@goodman-wilson.com>
Cc: "Sérgio Augusto Vianna" <sergio.a.vianna@gmail.com>,
"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org,
"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
"Simon Pieters" <simon@bocoup.com>
Subject: Re: Rename offensive terminology (master)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:47:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFZPMoanA6fW5YGO5Jxxd3_py=dBCqNxmU1ikUGuYopXWwofyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGA3LAcZa76oSovMYS7kKt9YwbYe74YgEscQKKs5qd5_KCneNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Americans' perpetual offendedness with everything is what leads to what was
written in Fahrenheit 451. Constant obsession with offendedness and constant
valuing of everyone else about "should I be offended now?" is so much
American now it became really concerning among all this PC culture.
Won't you stop your great self-destruction guys?
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:36 AM Don Goodman-Wilson
<don@goodman-wilson.com> wrote:
>
> (Sorry, I meant "many (if not most) non-native English speakers DON'T
> realize just how explosive certain English locutions can be to
> American native speakers.")
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 8:32 AM Don Goodman-Wilson
> <don@goodman-wilson.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am an American living in Europe. Let me offer an analogy. Like all
> > analogies, this one is imperfect, but I think it will serve to make my
> > point.
> >
> > As an American, I don't understand French humor. It's simply beyond
> > me. I've had it explained to me numerous times, but of course
> > explaining a joke can't impart its inherent humor. But none of this
> > should come as a surprise to anyone, as humor is a deeply cultural
> > artifact, something that can only truly be understood by those raised
> > within that culture. Even so, we can all appreciate the concept of
> > humor generally. More to the point, I certainly don't go around
> > denying that French humor exists, on the basis that I don't get it.
> >
> > In the same way, something I've learned living in Europe is that many
> > (if not most) non-native English speakers realize just how explosive
> > certain English locutions can be to American native speakers. That's
> > totally understanable as, like French humor, you have to have been
> > raised in the culture to really understand that fact. Like humor, we
> > all have a sense of what offensiveness means, and like humor, this
> > explosive content is a deeply cultural artifact, something that can
> > only truly be understood by those raised within that culture. The
> > visceral feeling of explosive content will probably always be beyond
> > grasping, just as French humor will probably never make me laugh.
> >
> > But to deny that explosive content on the basis that you don't
> > personally feel it, that you've never experienced it? To claim that it
> > is "meaningless", that some people are "perpetually offended"? That's
> > willful ignorance on your part, a bad-faith effort to engage in
> > serious intellectual conversation about what is good and right, and
> > has no place in a discussion about creating an inclusive space for all
> > developers, let alone trying to bring about a more just world.
> >
> > Don Goodman-Wilson
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 2:50 AM Sérgio Augusto Vianna
> > <sergio.a.vianna@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Then why create all this disruption by changing the default from master
> > > to "main" if you will offer a feature to set the default on creation?
> > > Americans were discussing trump's tiny hands last week and will have
> > > moved on to any other meaningless subject the next one. You can
> > > literally never please the perpetually offended. Taking this kind of
> > > slacktivism and creating problems for other people is a disgusting level
> > > of entitlement that only americans display. You really care about
> > > others? Remember there's other countries in the world.
> > >
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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-04 17:20 Rename offensive terminology (master) Simon Pieters
2020-05-04 17:43 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-05-04 23:10 ` N6Ghost
2020-05-04 17:45 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-05-04 18:31 ` Simon Pieters
2020-05-04 17:53 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-05-04 18:18 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-05-05 23:16 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-09 15:16 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-09 16:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 16:28 ` demerphq
2020-06-09 18:10 ` Johannes Sixt
2020-06-09 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 20:52 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-09 21:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-09 21:29 ` Simon Pieters
2020-06-10 9:51 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-06-10 11:16 ` Kevin Swinton
2020-06-10 12:18 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-10 16:30 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 0:03 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 0:00 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 0:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 0:50 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 6:32 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 6:34 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 8:47 ` Sergey Lapin [this message]
2020-06-14 8:48 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-14 12:07 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 7:31 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 8:38 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 19:33 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-17 1:17 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-17 7:45 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 10:04 ` Alex Smith
2020-06-16 11:29 ` Konstantin Tokarev
2020-06-16 11:39 ` Robert P. J. Day
2020-06-16 11:39 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 7:27 ` Sergey Organov
[not found] ` <c0c2d9ad-1d67-8ebe-0063-524005ca97fe@whinis.com>
2020-06-16 11:38 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 12:16 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 13:30 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 13:55 ` John Turner
2020-06-16 14:14 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-16 14:29 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 16:19 ` Alex Smith
2020-06-16 15:49 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 16:09 ` Whinis
2020-06-16 14:24 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 14:27 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 16:03 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 17:27 ` Oleg
2020-06-16 17:42 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 18:35 ` Sergey Lapin
2020-06-16 19:03 ` Oleg
2020-06-09 16:06 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-09 19:01 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 0:05 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:08 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-14 8:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 19:17 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 2:16 ` Taylor Blau
2020-06-15 2:54 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-09 22:36 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-16 8:50 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-10 21:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-10 22:35 ` Edward Thomson
2020-06-10 22:51 ` brian m. carlson
2020-06-11 11:52 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-11 11:59 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-11 12:52 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-06-11 15:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 2:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-15 10:07 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-12 13:21 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-14 0:41 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-14 10:54 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-14 12:20 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 13:58 ` Don Goodman-Wilson
2020-06-14 14:05 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 3:52 ` Andrew Ardill
2020-06-15 4:45 ` J. Paul Reed
2020-06-15 5:19 ` Andrew Ardill
2020-06-17 8:27 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-14 18:19 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 18:23 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:04 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 19:08 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 19:16 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-14 20:41 ` Philip Oakley
2020-06-16 7:36 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 7:43 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-16 8:01 ` demerphq
2020-06-16 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2020-06-17 19:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-17 20:10 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-17 20:17 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-18 7:57 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 8:38 ` Oleg
2020-06-18 10:17 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 15:23 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-18 7:40 ` demerphq
2020-06-18 18:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 21:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-14 21:15 ` Eric Wong
2020-06-14 21:39 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-06-15 18:07 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-15 18:18 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
[not found] ` <CAAwdEzDgJuoQJAZsrT0piuZPVP6nJTSB9RCbcuXO03-BYTnmOQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-06-15 19:37 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 19:50 ` Alexandru Pătrănescu
2020-06-15 20:44 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-15 20:42 ` Randall S. Becker
2020-06-15 0:34 ` James Ramsay
2020-06-15 21:38 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-15 21:46 ` Elijah Newren
2020-06-16 21:07 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-17 7:49 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 20:48 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-18 8:28 ` Oleg
2020-06-17 20:52 ` ZeeVriend
2020-06-13 23:56 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-13 23:53 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-14 14:59 ` Thomas Adam
2020-06-14 8:04 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 15:13 ` Michael Felt (aixtools)
2020-06-14 8:27 ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-06-14 15:51 ` George Of The Jungle
2020-06-14 15:20 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 0:02 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 14:39 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 14:39 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-15 23:15 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-16 1:00 ` Fang-Pen Lin
2020-06-16 1:38 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-21 19:50 ` Social Justice Movements [was: Rename offensive terminology (master)] Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2020-06-23 23:21 ` Rename offensive terminology (master) Gunnar Liljas
2020-06-24 1:16 ` Whinis
2020-06-24 8:19 ` lego_12239
2020-06-26 10:08 ` Gunnar Liljas
2020-06-26 10:34 ` Oleg
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2020-06-14 15:09 Michael Felt (aixtools)
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2020-06-16 0:16 Abram Wiebe
2020-06-16 0:23 ` Jonathan Nieder
2020-06-16 12:54 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2020-06-16 15:53 ` Sérgio Augusto Vianna
2020-06-17 11:34 Alastair Houghton
2020-06-17 11:49 ` Oleg
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2020-06-17 12:27 ` Zac McChesney
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2020-06-26 18:37 ` Neil Stoddard
2020-06-29 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
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