From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E142320248 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726920AbfCLXIM (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Mar 2019 19:08:12 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-f179.google.com ([209.85.167.179]:46987 "EHLO mail-oi1-f179.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726755AbfCLXIM (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Mar 2019 19:08:12 -0400 Received: by mail-oi1-f179.google.com with SMTP id j10so3525120oij.13 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:08:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eHqj6xXt+e+kANJcmG88TiGtRZng5CauC56V+gYYo64=; b=Fvwhw5ZKC3dlL44n3pfjov1hnisdxrKm1yL6kGA7FXsHqDgK6Q2UofCmD4z26UUiC2 KwSkYL0UQiOw9BQW1ryhZi59Q5zNIKjvzX9lsb/JMEO7pn32svykt96cfw0QusSgW5FN DPm0/Y9s97wT71bwgH2KOWeKxL9ftsUtEqDaNGssej1ybyAYqXZDZlgtAqr5JbqeGkyo ohtRZTWKM1H4GM6ixDO3QVgAfnsCU/iopMYM0dUY0sX3k6FdWIEmxns9rAMnKmXXk1EU 77hCfd+uJ6SkLc2nYqTeW9dSxrCRejZpvvNAp1a91ZTSMUW09iwervHt3rbcphoxgRWL qQbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eHqj6xXt+e+kANJcmG88TiGtRZng5CauC56V+gYYo64=; b=HSnwc3zdalxt8Lmvivd6LGEkPlARo1Id/OFm/FsHhWlx2FQ0wqeqGPlT+fbTD3paCE +bqDeQRXcvNCU1RGs0Wlylc9kzdPtJafiGX+ByqLJVcY3/+vHI7wystHVLg3jidAIwC9 ha9bb8bYNKMpR9nhOjzFVqCyWaBa4zJqV9bgrWFjqfbXemhn5gsy5qLIHNxPLN0mwSrA X2tOX1yTKaeyoWY1KjHNT/jeaWelvn8mrjFRTxsrYr7A+j9OLoCZeE9frZA1HbvX42rL +CnRI3qOYfHwAly9C5iIXJ2i18fnc0nvlJ4d1HLf8Z5YUMAsKmmmYnVnXE/9WLoRFHgu z8+w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWmFIDnPP8kL5VDzlTlQKLzdJ/FPbhhqCdVwfGdmb9nj7icW2Rr PXWII4it0K25m0ZuL4iFLT+2zBNUZYYcYxRhKFo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxZJNqMnu+D5Fy5xEJJyZf74OOS47SesDmV6I3ZsRit0NtRmaXoG2Yh+sqaij7RWJjfS7s/mq9/eJdXA+gZLyk= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5a45:: with SMTP id o66mr139877oib.179.1552432091035; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:08:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190312213246.GA6252@sigill.intra.peff.net> In-Reply-To: <20190312213246.GA6252@sigill.intra.peff.net> From: Roberto Tyley Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:08:00 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] point pull requesters to Git Git Gadget To: Jeff King Cc: Git Mailing List , Johannes Schindelin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 21:34, Jeff King wrote: ... > We could continue to mention _both_ tools, but it's probably better to > pick one in order to avoid overwhelming the user with choice. After all, > one of the purposes here is to reduce friction for first-time or > infrequent contributors. And there are a few reasons to prefer GGG: That's fair enough - I haven't committed to submitGit for 2 years (it's continued to work without incident for most of that time I think!). I would be prepared to spend more time on it if it was important to people - or, heavens forfend, I could be paid to do so :) - but I have a lot of projects (not just software ones!) and submitGit kind of fell to the bottom of the pile. I wasn't aware of https://gitgitgadget.github.io/ but it looks good! > 1. submitGit seems to still have a few rough edges. E.g., it doesn't > munge timestamps to help threaded mail readers handled out-of-order > delivery. Yup, very true. > 2. Subjectively, GGG seems to be more commonly used on the list these > days, especially by list regulars. That's probably true too, though my interest with submitGit was more driven by helping early/first-time contributors than regulars. Though I'm sure GGG works well, in an ideal world it would be interesting to get a perspective from a cohort of those kind of users about what kind of flow works best for them - although, as I haven't been following development, maybe this has already been done? > 3. GGG seems to be under more active development (likely related to > point 2). Definitely true! > I feel a little bad sending this, because I really value the work that > Roberto has done on submitGit. So just dropping it feels a bit > dismissive. Oh, you're very kind, that's ok! Very glad submitGit could help for a while, sounds like it was a good proof that GitHub could become part of the contribution process. Roberto