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From: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: "Brandon Williams" <bmwill@google.com>,
	"Thomas Gummerer" <t.gummerer@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Lars Schneider" <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] read-cache: fix reading the shared index for other repos
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:19:22 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACsJy8D+SjWsTtwBSPbw5cVVSuVFYP6GVRSWaP7AWSgLC3e=TQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180117181618.GA112319@aiede.svl.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Duy Nguyen wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com> wrote:
>
>>>                                  IIUC Split index is an index extension
>>> that can be enabled to limit the size of the index file that is written
>>> when making changes to the index.  It breaks the index into two pieces,
>>> index (which contains only changes) and sharedindex.XXXXX (which
>>> contains unchanged information) where 'XXXXX' is a value found in the
>>> index file.  If we don't do anything fancy then these two files live
>>> next to one another in a repository's git directory at $GIT_DIR/index
>>> and $GIT_DIR/sharedindex.XXXXX.  This seems to work all well and fine
>>> except that this isn't always the case and the read_index_from function
>>> takes this into account by enabling a caller to specify a path to where
>>> the index file is located.  We can do this by specifying the index file
>>> we want to use by setting GIT_INDEX_FILE.
> [...]
>>> In this case if i were to specify a location of an
>>> index file in my home directory '~/index' and be using the split index
>>> feature then the corresponding sharedindex file would live in my
>>> repository's git directory '~/project/.git/sharedindex.XXXXX'.  So the
>>> sharedindex file is always located relative to the project's git
>>> directory and not the index file itself, which is kind of confusing.
>>> Maybe a better design would be to have the sharedindex file located
>>> relative to the index file.
>>
>> That adds more problems. Now when you move the index file around you
>> have to move the shared index file too (think about atomic rename
>> which we use in plenty of places, we can't achieve that by moving two
>> files). A new dependency to $GIT_DIR is not that confusing to me, the
>> index file is useless anyway if you don't have access to
>> $GIT_DIR/objects. There was always the option to _not_ split the index
>> when $GIT_INDEX_FILE is specified, I think I did consider that but I
>> dropped it because we'd lose the performance gain by splitting.
>
> Can you elaborate a little more on this?
>
> At first glance, it seems simpler to say "paths in index extensions
> named in the index file are relative to the location of the index
> file" and to make moving the index file also require moving the shared
> index file, exactly as you say.  So at least from a "principle of
> least surprise" perspective I would be tempted to go that way.
>
> It's true that we rely on atomic rename in plenty of places, but only
> within a directory.  (Filesystem boundaries, NFS, etc mean that atomic
> renames across directories are a lost cause.)
>
> Fortunately index files (including temp index files used by scripts)
> tend to only be in $GIT_DIR, for exactly that reason.  So I am
> wondering if switching to index-file-relative semantics would be an
> invasive move and what the pros and cons of such a move are.

I think it gets messier. Now you have to move two files. If the first
move succeeds but the second one fails, recovery may involve un-move
the first file, but its old content is already gone. We probably can
get around that. But since the shared index is assumed big and heavy,
I just went with "store it in the place it's going to be and never
move it anywhere ever (until nobody uses it then it's deleted)"
-- 
Duy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-18 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-10 21:21 [PATCH 0/3] fixes for split index mode Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-10 21:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] repository: fix repo_read_index with submodules Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-11 18:54   ` Brandon Williams
2017-12-11 20:37     ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-10 21:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] prune: fix pruning with multiple worktrees and split index Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-11 19:09   ` Brandon Williams
2017-12-11 21:39     ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-10 21:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] travis: run tests with GIT_TEST_SPLIT_INDEX Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-10 23:37   ` Eric Sunshine
2017-12-11 21:09   ` SZEDER Gábor
2017-12-11 21:42     ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-12 15:54       ` Lars Schneider
2017-12-12 19:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-12 20:15           ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-12 20:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-13 23:21               ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-13 17:21           ` Lars Schneider
2017-12-13 17:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-13 17:46               ` Lars Schneider
2017-12-13 23:28                 ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-17 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] fixes for split index mode Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-17 22:51   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] repository: fix repo_read_index with submodules Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-18 18:01     ` Brandon Williams
2017-12-18 23:05       ` Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-18 23:05         ` Brandon Williams
2017-12-17 22:51   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] prune: fix pruning with multiple worktrees and split index Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-18 18:19     ` Brandon Williams
2018-01-03 22:18       ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-04 19:12         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-12-17 22:51   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] travis: run tests with GIT_TEST_SPLIT_INDEX Thomas Gummerer
2017-12-18 18:16     ` Lars Schneider
2018-01-04 20:13       ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-05 11:03         ` Lars Schneider
2018-01-07 20:02         ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-07 22:30   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] fixes for split index mode Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-07 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] read-cache: fix reading the shared index for other repos Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-08 10:41       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-08 22:41         ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-13 22:33           ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-08 23:38         ` Brandon Williams
2018-01-09  1:24           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-16 21:42       ` Brandon Williams
2018-01-17  0:16         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-17  0:32           ` Brandon Williams
2018-01-17 18:16           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-01-18 10:19             ` Duy Nguyen [this message]
2018-01-19 21:57       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-20 11:58         ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-22  6:14           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-27 12:18             ` Thomas Gummerer
2018-02-07 22:41             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-07 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] split-index: don't write cache tree with null oid entries Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-07 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] travis: run tests with GIT_TEST_SPLIT_INDEX Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-13 22:37     ` [PATCH v3 4/3] read-cache: don't try to write index if we can't write shared index Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-14  9:36       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-14 10:18         ` [PATCH 1/3] read-cache.c: change type of "temp" in write_shared_index() Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-14 10:18           ` [PATCH 2/3] read-cache.c: move tempfile creation/cleanup out of write_shared_index Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-14 10:18           ` [PATCH 3/3] read-cache: don't write index twice if we can't write shared index Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy
2018-01-18 11:36             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-18 12:47               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-18 13:29                 ` Jeff King
2018-01-18 13:36                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-18 15:00                     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-18 21:37                       ` Jeff King
2018-01-18 22:32                         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-19  0:30                           ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-22 13:32                           ` [PATCH 0/5] Travis CI: don't run the test suite as root in the 32 bit Linux build SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-22 13:32                             ` [PATCH 1/5] travis-ci: use 'set -x' for the commands under 'su' " SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-22 13:32                             ` [PATCH 2/5] travis-ci: use 'set -e' in the 32 bit Linux build job SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-23 16:26                               ` Jeff King
2018-01-23 16:32                                 ` Jeff King
2018-01-24 12:12                                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-24 15:49                                   ` Jeff King
2018-01-22 13:32                             ` [PATCH 3/5] travis-ci: don't repeat the path of the cache directory SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-23 16:30                               ` Jeff King
2018-01-24 13:14                                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-22 13:32                             ` [PATCH 4/5] travis-ci: don't run the test suite as root in the 32 bit Linux build SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-23 16:43                               ` Jeff King
2018-01-24 13:45                                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-24 15:56                                   ` Jeff King
2018-01-24 18:01                                     ` Jeff King
2018-01-24 19:51                                       ` Jeff King
2018-01-22 13:32                             ` [PATCH 5/5] travis-ci: don't fail if user already exists on 32 bit Linux build job SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-23 16:46                               ` Jeff King
2018-01-24  0:32                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-24 19:39                                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-22 18:27                 ` [PATCH 3/3] read-cache: don't write index twice if we can't write shared index SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-22 19:46                   ` Eric Sunshine
2018-01-22 22:10                     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-01-24  9:11                   ` Duy Nguyen
2018-01-26 22:44                   ` Lars Schneider
2018-01-14 14:29         ` [PATCH v3 4/3] read-cache: don't try to write index " Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-18 21:53     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] fixes for split index mode Thomas Gummerer
2018-01-19 18:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-01-19 21:11         ` Thomas Gummerer

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