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From: Heba Waly <heba.waly@gmail.com>
To: Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Heba Waly via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] advice: refactor advise API
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 15:35:02 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACg5j262pndH=-WdnxtRs63evL8DKvx5w2T0G2-R4LdjZBRf_g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200210225528.GD190927@google.com>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:55 AM Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 03:37:25PM -0500, Jeff King wrote:
> >
> >      instead. Using string literals is more accident-prone than
> >      variables (because the compiler doesn't notice if we misspell them)
> >      but I think is OK for cases where we just refer to the key once.
> >      For others (e.g., advice_commit_before_merge has 13 mentions),
> >      either keep the variable. Or alternatively make a wrapper like:
> >
> >        int want_advice_commit_before_merge(void)
> >        {
> >                return want_advice("commitbeforemerge");
> >        }
> >
> >      if we want to drop the existing mechanism to load all of the
> >      variables at the beginning.
>
> I tend to disagree on both counts. I'd personally rather see something
> like 'void advise_key(enum advice, char *format, ...)'.
>
> As I understand it, Heba wanted to avoid that pattern so that people
> adding a new advice didn't need to modify the advice library. However, I
> think there's value to having a centralized list of all possible advices
> (besides the documentation). The per-advice wrapper is harder to iterate
> than an enum, and will also result in a lot of samey code if we decide
> we want to use that pattern for more advices.
>

I think Peff is suggesting the wrapper for only those rare cases where
a single advice config variable is being checked several times around
the code base, but this doesn't mean we'll have many of them. In my
own opinion, I don't see the need for the list of advices, I think
it'll add unneeded complexity to the advice library and the
introduction of new advice messages. Mainly because I don't see a
scenario where we'd need to iterate through them, so I don't know ...

> (In fact, with git-bugreport I'm running into a lot of regret that hooks
> are invoked in the way Peff describes - 'find_hook("pre-commit")' -
> rather than with an enum naming the hook; it's very hard to check all
> possible hooks, and hard to examine the codebase and determine which
> hooks do and don't exist.)
>
> When Heba began to describe this project I had hoped for a final product
> like 'void show_advice(enum advice_config)' which looked up the
> appropriate string from the advice library instead of asking the caller
> to provide it, although seeing the need for varargs has demonstrated to
> me that that's not feasible :) But I think taking the advice config key
> as an argument is possibly too far the other direction. At that point,
> it starts to beg the question, "why isn't this function in config.h and
> called print_if_configured(cfgname, message, ...)?"
>
> Although, take this all with a grain of salt. I think I lean towards
> this much encapsulation after a sordid history with C++ and an
> enlightened C developer may not choose it ;)
>
>  - Emily

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-11  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-10  5:04 [PATCH] advice: refactor advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-10 14:38 ` Derrick Stolee
2020-02-10 19:30   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-10 19:42     ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-10 22:29       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-11  0:08       ` Heba Waly
2020-02-12 20:57         ` Taylor Blau
2020-02-10 23:56   ` Heba Waly
2020-02-11  2:39     ` Derrick Stolee
2020-02-10 20:37 ` Jeff King
2020-02-10 22:55   ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-11  2:35     ` Heba Waly [this message]
2020-02-11 19:49     ` Jeff King
2020-02-11 19:51       ` Jeff King
2020-02-11  2:20   ` Heba Waly
2020-02-10 22:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-11  2:01   ` Heba Waly
2020-02-11  6:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-16 21:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] [RFC][Outreachy] " Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-16 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-17  3:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-17 10:03       ` Heba Waly
2020-02-19  9:59     ` Heba Waly
2020-02-16 21:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] advice: extract vadvise() from advise() Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-17  0:09   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] [RFC][Outreachy] advice: refactor advise API Junio C Hamano
2020-02-19 20:33   ` [PATCH v3 0/2] [Outreachy] advice: revamp " Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-19 20:34     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-20  1:37       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-21  0:31         ` Heba Waly
2020-02-19 20:34     ` [PATCH v3 2/2] advice: extract vadvise() from advise() Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-20  1:42       ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-21  0:34         ` Heba Waly
2020-02-24 15:13     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] [Outreachy] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-24 15:13       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] advice: extract vadvise() from advise() Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-24 22:04         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-24 15:13       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-24 22:05         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-24 22:11           ` Eric Sunshine
2020-02-24 23:51             ` Heba Waly
2020-02-24 23:49           ` Heba Waly
2020-02-24 23:45         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-24 15:13       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] tag: use new advice API to check visibility Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-24 22:07         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-24 23:46         ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 10:55       ` [PATCH v5 0/3] [Outreachy] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-25 10:55         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] advice: extract vadvise() from advise() Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-25 10:55         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-25 17:40           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 19:56             ` Emily Shaffer
2020-02-25 20:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 20:35                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-25 21:19             ` Heba Waly
2020-02-25 22:02               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-26  0:37                 ` Heba Waly
2020-02-26  3:03                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-26 20:28                     ` Heba Waly
2020-02-26 20:44                       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-26 21:48                     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-02-25 10:55         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] tag: use new advice API to check visibility Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-25 17:48           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-27  4:35         ` [PATCH v6 0/4] [Outreachy] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-27  4:35           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] advice: extract vadvise() from advise() Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-27  4:35           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] advice: change "setupStreamFailure" to "setUpstreamFailure" Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-27 17:38             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-27  4:35           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-02-27 20:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-02-29  0:58               ` Heba Waly
2020-02-27  4:35           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] tag: use new advice API to check visibility Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-03-02 20:01           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] [Outreachy] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-03-02 20:01             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] advice: extract vadvise() from advise() Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-03-02 20:01             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] advice: change "setupStreamFailure" to "setUpstreamFailure" Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-03-02 20:01             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] advice: revamp advise API Heba Waly via GitGitGadget
2020-03-02 21:03               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-03 14:15                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-03-04  3:22                   ` Heba Waly
2020-03-02 20:02             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] tag: use new advice API to check visibility Heba Waly via GitGitGadget

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