From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D2B1F66F for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 00:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726752AbgKSAzj (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:55:39 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:51560 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726098AbgKSAzj (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:55:39 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-x441.google.com (mail-pf1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::441]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 018AEC0613D4 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf1-x441.google.com with SMTP id g7so2802577pfc.2 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:55:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TQLsjgq0jyw68xhp+xLYlfVuP/Kdo5y+VY9LP+nfTRk=; b=k7xK0tPEdNwqhdOIrS/6WHiTNfH7ts3CMXl56ou18HZTuCBFSB6hpRF9Q5siTak1UY zSeEUcoX0JW3SLU0gbUhrZCmrr0FW4a4yQKTEnJZVJbsyD9jgv5dEjn+qN2bCJdTFiPu gv71ny1/Z2OukHkqZTtRQ/EiPU2Q+0KXs3yMHy8wu24oS4ZCBAfeBYZoLzincL1hKQlq 0wBKuskhEYA7clh69nKh2pH41mMARMY+kywuxYWN+QPtD569DVideCR0VpRwLpLQuZs7 vyraEU+EmdphxUZGP0pORQSuk7nP+YzoaqdDigp+n4JWYNRE/p8wJekMHvoPJgiBi82E itZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TQLsjgq0jyw68xhp+xLYlfVuP/Kdo5y+VY9LP+nfTRk=; b=pHzLb5Il/jz0Gz5hgCjWkoxsZyRypkhaGYBPf7OKTB96Laf2rHnXW0d/2TOHDJ60uC g0p4uoisyYIpJ81fR1wYmc2pPzpnTjWOnEmL6Gy9wyL0FtPwairihsLkuvDwgufLjsQK VW/7nvZPGfvgEYLdh/bi1xJLC1+A1v0QldWzrWHrYZgEcjTPjRuHgvewBYlNxcYZC6Xk F/v4jn5N0vhxU9UJ8AcKyc0Apm9xCH1J9CboF5oTycod9k3z26dtMRQMGsWChvtHllLS PdemXAYrUq7FsuDTnxmHYoP0qfhDP+V1pku8BWJgVlcw9WxYlFMiBWZMwCydLpvos5V1 xxrA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ugk6FKRRipT5VJduLOoZ6WaTmPqExh03eFOwpSiYqvh701rDu 0lgQcGhBslEl//g1Z48KD8QXVwIX6joVJyu5Nho= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwFLunoWjvt8kkTI7wvdtZbTPvNxX1IIoquIXL+H0PUrnnW6ria4zBR6eelJ/HaJ6qRJ1uOR5wSgRVnYMezZMs= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4601:: with SMTP id w1mr151843pjg.109.1605747337475; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:55:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87r1oraewl.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <1389dabc-33c9-1e65-a3de-43729a6c2e70@iee.email> <36e028c3-b2be-30ba-11a0-7dc277c1ceca@iee.email> In-Reply-To: <36e028c3-b2be-30ba-11a0-7dc277c1ceca@iee.email> From: Peter Hadlaw Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:55:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/28] Use main as default branch name To: Philip Oakley Cc: Johannes Schindelin , Junio C Hamano , "Eric W. Biederman" , Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget , git@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org There's still a responsibility for ~57 years worth of human life that doesn't actually need to be put at risk. Someone forgetting how to rebase a branch in some given way and then having to search is their own responsibility. On the other hand, this is a decision made on their behalf, without their consent, ... on everyone's behalf. If you're not going to change the default without user input, are you going to ask the user for a default branch name? Figure out the math and annoyance on that. On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:44 PM Philip Oakley wrote: > > On 19/11/2020 00:30, Peter Hadlaw wrote: > > That leaves us with 10 million users of git that are either unaware or > > are not on board. Let's say it takes 3 minutes for a user to search on > > the web why exactly they can't > > navigate to their "master" branch. That's 30 million minutes of time > > wasted, or about 57 man-YEARs of time wasted.... for what? > That's (3 mins) probably about the same amount of time as most users > waste on stack overflow for Git questions, or the old 'RTFM', for their > problems in a typical week anyway. > > 3 mins out of a 35 hr week, over a 44 week x 25 year life is 1.3 ppm, > unless you work too hard and too long, where it's an even lower ppm. > > There are mechanism in this series for setting the default branch name. > > -- > Philip > -- Peter