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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>,
	"SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <derrickstolee@github.com>,
	"Derrick Stolee" <dstolee@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/5] Re: [PATCH v3 07/20] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 13:26:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BHh_QgF8xej8=xUJh+mYfKTB_d-7Su+xwcfRyaHEPz1mA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d93300ad-9a3b-6de4-c497-acd56eff30dc@gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 12:46 PM Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/17/2021 2:28 PM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:28 AM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
> > <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
>
> >>
> >> So we have a test tool that's mostly ls-files but mocks the output
> >> ls-tree would emit, won't these tests eventually care about what stage
> >> things are in?
> >>
> >> What follows is an RFC series on top that's the result of me wondering
> >> why if we're adding new index constructs we aren't updating our
> >> plumbing to emit that data, can we just add this to ls-files and drop
> >> this test helper?
> >>
> >> Turns out: Yes we can.
> >
> > I like the idea of having ls-files be usable to show the entries that
> > are in the index; that seems great to me.  I very much dislike the
> > --sparse flag to ls-files, as noted on that commit.
>
> I don't like this idea. I don't think exposing internal structures
> like this is something we want to do so quickly.

Not sure I follow; ls-files was already about exposing three bits of
internal structures for index entries: mode, hash, and stage number.
These are quantities that are well-defined for sparse directories too.
It would not be exposing any new or different internal structures, nor
changing the output format.  (Ævar changed the tests to not look for
"tree" but to look for the "040000" mode number.)

>  Further, I intend
> to use this test tool in the future to _also_ show the stored stat()
> data, which would be inappropriate here in ls-files.
>
> I would prefer to continue using the test helper here and leave
> functional changes to ls-files be considered independently.

Well, I was okay with it being in a test helper regardless of whether
it could be done with ls-files, and then just circling back and fixing
up ls-files later.  But perhaps it's worth calling out in the commit
message about your plans to add stat() data and how that future piece
can't be done in ls-files (without functional changes of some sort)
just to make it clearer why we're using a test helper instead of
front-loading the port of ls-files over to sparse-indexes?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-17 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 203+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-23 20:14 [PATCH 00/20] Sparse Index: Design, Format, Tests Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 01/20] sparse-index: design doc and format update Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-24  1:13   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-25 15:29     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-25 20:14       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 02/20] t/perf: add performance test for sparse operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-24  2:30   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-09 20:03     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 03/20] t1092: clean up script quoting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 04/20] sparse-index: add guard to ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-24  2:44   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 05/20] sparse-index: implement ensure_full_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-24  3:20   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 06/20] t1092: compare sparse-checkout to sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-25  6:37   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 07/20] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-25  7:02   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-09 21:00     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 08/20] test-tool: don't force full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 09/20] unpack-trees: ensure " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 10/20] sparse-checkout: hold pattern list in index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-25  7:14   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 11/20] sparse-index: convert from full to sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-25  7:33   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-09 21:13     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 12/20] submodule: sparse-index should not collapse links Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 13/20] unpack-trees: allow sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-25  7:40   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-09 21:35     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-09 21:39       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 14/20] sparse-index: check index conversion happens Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 15/20] sparse-index: create extension for compatibility Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-25  7:45   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-09 21:45     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 16/20] sparse-checkout: toggle sparse index from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-24 19:11   ` Martin Ågren
2021-03-09 20:52     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-09 21:03       ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-09 21:10         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-09 21:38           ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-14 20:08       ` Martin Ågren
2021-03-15 13:36         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 17/20] sparse-checkout: disable sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-27 12:32   ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-03-09 20:20     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-10 18:20       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 18/20] cache-tree: integrate with sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 19/20] sparse-index: loose integration with cache_tree_verify() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 20:14 ` [PATCH 20/20] p2000: add sparse-index repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-02-23 23:49 ` [PATCH 00/20] Sparse Index: Design, Format, Tests Elijah Newren
2021-02-26 21:28   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v2 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 01/20] sparse-index: design doc and format update Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 22:19     ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 02/20] t/perf: add performance test for sparse operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 03/20] t1092: clean up script quoting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 04/20] sparse-index: add guard to ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 05/20] sparse-index: implement ensure_full_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-12  6:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-12 13:56       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-12 20:08         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-12 20:11           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-15 23:52             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 06/20] t1092: compare sparse-checkout to sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 23:04     ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-11 14:17       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 07/20] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 08/20] test-tool: don't force full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 09/20] unpack-trees: ensure " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 10/20] sparse-checkout: hold pattern list in index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 11/20] sparse-index: convert from full to sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 23:44     ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-11 14:13       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 12/20] submodule: sparse-index should not collapse links Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 13/20] unpack-trees: allow sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 14/20] sparse-index: check index conversion happens Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 15/20] sparse-index: create extension for compatibility Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:30   ` [PATCH v2 16/20] sparse-checkout: toggle sparse index from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:31   ` [PATCH v2 17/20] sparse-checkout: disable sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:31   ` [PATCH v2 18/20] cache-tree: integrate with sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:31   ` [PATCH v2 19/20] sparse-index: loose integration with cache_tree_verify() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-10 19:31   ` [PATCH v2 20/20] p2000: add sparse-index repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-11  0:07   ` [PATCH v2 00/20] Sparse Index: Design, Format, Tests Elijah Newren
2021-03-16 16:42   ` [PATCH v3 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 01/20] sparse-index: design doc and format update Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-19 23:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-23 11:16         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-23 20:10           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-23 20:42             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 02/20] t/perf: add performance test for sparse operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-17  8:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 13:05         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-17 13:21           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 18:02             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 03/20] t1092: clean up script quoting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-17  8:47       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 04/20] sparse-index: add guard to ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 05/20] sparse-index: implement ensure_full_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-17 13:03       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 06/20] t1092: compare sparse-checkout to sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 07/20] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-17 13:28       ` [RFC/PATCH 0/5] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 18:28         ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-17 19:46           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-17 20:26             ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2021-03-17 20:34               ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-17 13:28       ` [RFC/PATCH 1/5] ls-files: defer read_index() after parse_options() etc Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 13:28       ` [RFC/PATCH 2/5] ls-files: make "mode" in show_ce() loop a variable Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 18:11         ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-24  0:46           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 13:28       ` [RFC/PATCH 3/5] ls-files: add and use a new --sparse option Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 18:19         ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-17 18:27           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 18:44             ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-17 20:43         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-24  0:52           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 13:28       ` [RFC/PATCH 4/5] test-tool read-cache: --table is redundant to ls-files Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 13:28       ` [RFC/PATCH 5/5] test-tool: split up test-tool read-cache Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 13:32         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 08/20] test-tool: don't force full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 09/20] unpack-trees: ensure " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 10/20] sparse-checkout: hold pattern list in index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 11/20] sparse-index: convert from full to sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-17 13:43       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-17 19:55         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-18 13:38           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 12/20] submodule: sparse-index should not collapse links Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 13/20] unpack-trees: allow sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-17 13:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 14/20] sparse-index: check index conversion happens Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 15/20] sparse-index: create extension for compatibility Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:42     ` [PATCH v3 16/20] sparse-checkout: toggle sparse index from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:43     ` [PATCH v3 17/20] sparse-checkout: disable sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:43     ` [PATCH v3 18/20] cache-tree: integrate with sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:43     ` [PATCH v3 19/20] sparse-index: loose integration with cache_tree_verify() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:43     ` [PATCH v3 20/20] p2000: add sparse-index repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-16 16:59     ` [PATCH v3 00/20] Sparse Index: Design, Format, Tests Derrick Stolee
2021-03-16 21:18     ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-18 21:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-19 13:00       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-23 13:44     ` [PATCH v4 " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 01/20] sparse-index: design doc and format update Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-26 20:29         ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-03-28  1:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-29 14:32             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 02/20] t/perf: add performance test for sparse operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 03/20] t1092: clean up script quoting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 04/20] sparse-index: add guard to ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 05/20] sparse-index: implement ensure_full_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 06/20] t1092: compare sparse-checkout to sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 07/20] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-24  1:24         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-24 12:33           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-25  3:41             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-26  0:12               ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-28 15:31                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-29 19:46                   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-29 21:44                     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-30 11:28                       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-29 23:06                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-03-30 11:41                       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-29 22:02                   ` Elijah Newren
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 08/20] test-tool: don't force full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 09/20] unpack-trees: ensure " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 10/20] sparse-checkout: hold pattern list in index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 11/20] sparse-index: convert from full to sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 12/20] submodule: sparse-index should not collapse links Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 13/20] unpack-trees: allow sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 14/20] sparse-index: check index conversion happens Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 15/20] sparse-index: create extension for compatibility Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 16/20] sparse-checkout: toggle sparse index from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 17/20] sparse-checkout: disable sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 18/20] cache-tree: integrate with sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 19/20] sparse-index: loose integration with cache_tree_verify() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 13:44       ` [PATCH v4 20/20] p2000: add sparse-index repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-23 16:16       ` [PATCH v4 00/20] Sparse Index: Design, Format, Tests Elijah Newren
2021-03-30 13:10       ` [PATCH v5 00/21] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 01/21] sparse-index: design doc and format update Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 02/21] t/perf: add performance test for sparse operations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 03/21] t1092: clean up script quoting Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 04/21] sparse-index: add guard to ensure full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 05/21] sparse-index: implement ensure_full_index() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 06/21] t1092: compare sparse-checkout to sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 07/21] test-read-cache: print cache entries with --table Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 08/21] test-tool: don't force full index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 09/21] unpack-trees: ensure " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 10/21] sparse-checkout: hold pattern list in index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 11/21] sparse-index: add 'sdir' index extension Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 12/21] sparse-index: convert from full to sparse Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 13/21] submodule: sparse-index should not collapse links Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 14/21] unpack-trees: allow sparse directories Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 15/21] sparse-index: check index conversion happens Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:10         ` [PATCH v5 16/21] sparse-index: add index.sparse config option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:11         ` [PATCH v5 17/21] sparse-checkout: toggle sparse index from builtin Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:11         ` [PATCH v5 18/21] sparse-checkout: disable sparse-index Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:11         ` [PATCH v5 19/21] cache-tree: integrate with sparse directory entries Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:11         ` [PATCH v5 20/21] sparse-index: loose integration with cache_tree_verify() Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 13:11         ` [PATCH v5 21/21] p2000: add sparse-index repos Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2021-03-30 20:11         ` [PATCH v5 00/21] Sparse Index: Design, Format, Tests Junio C Hamano
2021-03-30 21:31           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-30 21:49             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-01  5:59             ` Elijah Newren
2021-04-01  4:38         ` Elijah Newren

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