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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: "Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Eric Sunshine" <sunshine@sunshineco.com>,
	"Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] fast-export: do automatic reencoding of commit messages only if requested
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 09:41:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BHfqgWVvf67JkPvE=hgzhZ1Jzy=D+vTc=v2j9+hgJzs9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1905131219490.44@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 3:23 AM Johannes Schindelin
<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Elijah,
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019, Elijah Newren wrote:
>
> > [...] the craziness is based on how Windows behaves; it seems insane to
> > me that Windows decides to munge user data (in the form of the command
> > line provided), so much so that it makes me wonder if I really
> > understood Hannes' and Dscho's explanations of what it is doing.
>
> It is not the user data that is munged by *Windows*, but by *Git for
> Windows*. The user data on Windows is encoded in UTF-16 (or some slight
> variant thereof). Git *cannot* handle UTF-16. Git's test suite *cannot*
> handle UTF-16. So we convert. That's all there is to it.

Ooh, it's Git for Windows doing the conversion?  That means I can test
for the expected bytes with printf and grep, I only need to feed
special bytes to git via file instead of command line.  That's better.
:-)

> Ciao,
> Dscho
>
> P.S.: Of course it is not *all* there is to it. There is also a current
> code page which depends on the current user's current locale. We can
> definitely not rely on that, as Git has no idea about this and would quite
> positively produce incorrect output because of it. So we really just use
> the `*W()` functions of the Win32 API (i.e. the ones accepting wide
> Unicode characters and strings, i.e. UTF-16). I don't think we can do
> better than that.

Going off on a tangent for a minute...okay, so you need to do some
kind of conversion for Windows, but why is it automatically UTF-8 ->
UTF-16?  In particular, if i18n.commitencoding configuration option is
set (to something other than UTF-8), then couldn't you instead convert
the commit message specified on the command line from $(git config
i18n.commitencoding) to UTF-16?  Or, perhaps convert from $(git config
i18n.commitencoding) to UTF-8 before the automatic UTF-8 -> UTF-16
conversion?  It doesn't matter for this series anymore since I've
worked around it (by passing the bytes via an external file as
suggested by Hannes), but it seems like Git For Windows might be able
to still do better here.  Or maybe I'm still not understanding the
full picture.  Anyway, thanks for all the explanations and the help
getting this fixed up.

Elijah

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-05-13 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-30 18:25 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix and extend encoding handling in fast export/import Elijah Newren
2019-04-30 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] t9350: fix encoding test to actually test reencoding Elijah Newren
2019-04-30 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] fast-import: support 'encoding' commit header Elijah Newren
2019-04-30 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] fast-export: avoid stripping encoding header if we cannot reencode Elijah Newren
2019-04-30 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] fast-export: differentiate between explicitly utf-8 and implicitly utf-8 Elijah Newren
2019-04-30 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] fast-export: do automatic reencoding of commit messages only if requested Elijah Newren
2019-05-10 20:53 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Fix and extend encoding handling in fast export/import Elijah Newren
2019-05-10 20:53   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] t9350: fix encoding test to actually test reencoding Elijah Newren
2019-05-10 20:53   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] fast-import: support 'encoding' commit header Elijah Newren
2019-05-10 20:53   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] fast-export: avoid stripping encoding header if we cannot reencode Elijah Newren
2019-05-10 20:53   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] fast-export: differentiate between explicitly utf-8 and implicitly utf-8 Elijah Newren
2019-05-10 20:53   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] fast-export: do automatic reencoding of commit messages only if requested Elijah Newren
2019-05-11 21:07     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2019-05-11 21:42       ` Elijah Newren
2019-05-13  7:48         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-13 13:24           ` Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 10:23         ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-13 12:56           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2019-05-13 13:29             ` Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 16:41           ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2019-05-13 10:14   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Fix and extend encoding handling in fast export/import Johannes Schindelin
2019-05-13 16:47   ` [PATCH v4 " Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 16:47     ` [PATCH v4 1/5] t9350: fix encoding test to actually test reencoding Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 16:47     ` [PATCH v4 2/5] fast-import: support 'encoding' commit header Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 16:47     ` [PATCH v4 3/5] fast-export: avoid stripping encoding header if we cannot reencode Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 16:47     ` [PATCH v4 4/5] fast-export: differentiate between explicitly utf-8 and implicitly utf-8 Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 16:47     ` [PATCH v4 5/5] fast-export: do automatic reencoding of commit messages only if requested Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 22:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-05-13 23:17     ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Fix and extend encoding handling in fast export/import Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 23:17       ` [PATCH v5 1/5] t9350: fix encoding test to actually test reencoding Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  2:50         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2019-05-13 23:17       ` [PATCH v5 2/5] fast-import: support 'encoding' commit header Elijah Newren
2019-05-13 23:17       ` [PATCH v5 3/5] fast-export: avoid stripping encoding header if we cannot reencode Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  2:56         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2019-05-13 23:17       ` [PATCH v5 4/5] fast-export: differentiate between explicitly utf-8 and implicitly utf-8 Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  3:01         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2019-05-13 23:17       ` [PATCH v5 5/5] fast-export: do automatic reencoding of commit messages only if requested Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  0:19         ` Eric Sunshine
2019-05-14  4:30       ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Fix and extend encoding handling in fast export/import Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  4:30         ` [PATCH v6 1/5] t9350: fix encoding test to actually test reencoding Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  4:30         ` [PATCH v6 2/5] fast-import: support 'encoding' commit header Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  4:31         ` [PATCH v6 3/5] fast-export: avoid stripping encoding header if we cannot reencode Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  4:31         ` [PATCH v6 4/5] fast-export: differentiate between explicitly UTF-8 and implicitly UTF-8 Elijah Newren
2019-05-14  4:31         ` [PATCH v6 5/5] fast-export: do automatic reencoding of commit messages only if requested Elijah Newren
2019-05-16 18:15         ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Fix and extend encoding handling in fast export/import Torsten Bögershausen

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