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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Cc: Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rebase: remove completely useless -C option
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:42:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BHCKweQR=i8sZx2Nrh3YTXCThys7=EeN+jsxvLb=L_KVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPig+cQj4Gi+ikkPz3wffqGZVz5uALGzYV25nio3k4+cthP9Uw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:40 PM Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 12:14 AM Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
> <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The `-C` option to rebase was introduced with 67dad687ad ("add -C[NUM]
> > to git-am", 2007-02-08).  Based on feedback on the patch, the author
> > added the -C option not just to git-am but also to git-rebase.  But did
> > it such that the option was just passed through to git-am (which passes
> > it along to git-apply), with no corresponding option to format-patch.
> >
> > As per the git-apply documentation for the `-C` option:
> >     Ensure at least <n> lines of surrounding context match...When fewer
> >     lines of surrounding context exist they all must match.
> >
> > The fact that format-patch was not passed a -U option to increase the
> > number of context lines meant that there would still only be 3 lines of
> > context to match on.  So, anyone attempting to use this option in
> > git-rebase would just be spinning their wheels and wasting time.  I was
> > one such user a number of years ago.
> >
> > Since this option can at best waste users time and is nothing more than
> > a confusing no-op, and has never been anything other than a confusing
> > no-op, and no one has ever bothered to create a testcase for it that
> > goes beyond option parsing, simply excise the option.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
>
> Is there a chance that this patch could break some existing tooling or
> someone's workflow or alias?  If so, perhaps it would be better to
> continue recognizing it, but as a proper no-op? That is:
>
> (1) continue accepting the option but mark it PARSE_OPT_HIDDEN or some such
>
> (2) completely ignore the option
>
> (3) in case someone runs across it in some existing script or example
> and wants to know what it does, leave one mention of it in the
> documentation, such as:
>
>     -C<n>
>         Does nothing. This option is accepted for backward compatibility
>         only. Do not use.

If an option becomes a no-op over time due to other changes, this
would likely be the route I'd lean towards.  I'm just not sure it's
merited in this case.

We already turned numerous no-op choices in rebase into errors with
commit 8295ed690b ("rebase: make the backend configurable via config
setting", 2020-02-15), where we started pointing out that apply-based
and merge-based options were incompatible (as opposed to silently
accepting competing options and ignoring ones not supported by
whichever backend happened to trump at the time based on the options.)
 So, there's recent precedent to jump directly to errors with no-ops
in rebase.  Those cases are slightly different in that options were
only conditionally no-ops, whereas in this case we have an option that
is unconditionally a no-op, suggesting we might be able to do
something stronger.

On top of that, I just can't find any evidence of anyone ever using
this option: (a) it was only put in as an afterthought by the original
author (who was only really interested in git-am -C), (b) there are
absolutely no testcases in the testsuite covering its behavior, (c) my
searches of the mailing list and google don't turn up any hits though
admittedly it's hard to figure out what to search on, and (d) while I
tried to use the option at times, it was only because I was doing work
to make backends consistent and switch the default one and trying to
understand all the inner workings, and even then I gave up on it and
punted it down the road.

And, of course, the option never worked as advertised anyway.

That combination makes me think nuking it would go completely
unnoticed outside this mailing list.  If others would rather see the
more cautious route despite all the above, I can implement it, but
likely alter your step (2) from ignoring into throwing an error
message (or at the very least a warning).

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-19  5:36 [PATCH] rebase: mark --update-refs as requiring the merge backend Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-19 21:47 ` Derrick Stolee
2023-01-20  1:54   ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-20 15:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-20 16:47     ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-20  4:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-20  4:56   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rebase: remove completely useless -C option Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-20  5:40     ` Eric Sunshine
2023-01-20  6:42       ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2023-01-20  9:55     ` Martin Ågren
2023-01-20 15:32       ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-20 12:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-20 15:31       ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-20 16:15         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-21  4:52           ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-22  0:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-20  4:56   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rebase: mark --update-refs as requiring the merge backend Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-20 16:46     ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-21  1:34       ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-21  1:55   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] rebase: fix several code/testing/documentation issues around flag incompatibilities Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] rebase: mark --update-refs as requiring the merge backend Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] rebase: flag --apply and --merge as incompatible Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] rebase: remove --allow-empty-message from incompatible opts Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21 15:09       ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] rebase: fix docs about incompatibilities with --root Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] rebase: add coverage of other incompatible options Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21 15:20       ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-21 19:25         ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-22  5:11           ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] rebase: clarify the OPT_CMDMODE incompatibilities Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21  1:55     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] rebase: fix formatting of rebase --reapply-cherry-picks option in docs Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-21 15:21       ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-22  6:12     ` [PATCH v4 0/9] rebase: fix several code/testing/documentation issues around flag incompatibilities Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 1/9] rebase: mark --update-refs as requiring the merge backend Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 2/9] rebase: flag --apply and --merge as incompatible Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 3/9] rebase: remove --allow-empty-message from incompatible opts Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 4/9] rebase: fix docs about incompatibilities with --root Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 5/9] rebase: add coverage of other incompatible options Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-23 20:08         ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-24  2:36           ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-24 10:27             ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-24 13:16               ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-24 14:48                 ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-24 15:41                 ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-24 16:48                   ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-24 17:12                     ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-24 19:21                       ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 6/9] rebase: clarify the OPT_CMDMODE incompatibilities Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 7/9] rebase: fix formatting of rebase --reapply-cherry-picks option in docs Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 8/9] rebase: put rebase_options initialization in single place Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-22  6:12       ` [PATCH v4 9/9] rebase: provide better error message for apply options vs. merge config Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-23 15:56       ` [PATCH v4 0/9] rebase: fix several code/testing/documentation issues around flag incompatibilities Derrick Stolee
2023-01-24  2:05         ` Elijah Newren
2023-01-25  4:03       ` [PATCH v5 00/10] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 01/10] rebase: mark --update-refs as requiring the merge backend Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 02/10] rebase: flag --apply and --merge as incompatible Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 03/10] rebase: remove --allow-empty-message from incompatible opts Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 04/10] rebase: fix docs about incompatibilities with --root Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 05/10] rebase: fix incompatiblity checks for --[no-]reapply-cherry-picks Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25 14:14           ` Phillip Wood
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 06/10] rebase: add coverage of other incompatible options Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 07/10] rebase: clarify the OPT_CMDMODE incompatibilities Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 08/10] rebase: fix formatting of rebase --reapply-cherry-picks option in docs Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 09/10] rebase: put rebase_options initialization in single place Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25  4:03         ` [PATCH v5 10/10] rebase: provide better error message for apply options vs. merge config Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2023-01-25 14:17         ` [PATCH v5 00/10] rebase: fix several code/testing/documentation issues around flag incompatibilities Phillip Wood
2023-01-25 16:39         ` Junio C Hamano
2023-01-25 16:48           ` Elijah Newren
2023-02-02 10:29         ` rebase --merge vs --whitespace=fix, was " Johannes Schindelin
2023-02-02 23:48           ` Elijah Newren

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