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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>,
	Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 08:09:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BH7iVoCmnDqtQeyO6kgp37MGMbHA0X-4H+YJFD6jeUarw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4eeb6a1-a801-e984-d245-f291a0cf9727@gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:31 AM Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/8/2021 3:27 AM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 6:38 AM Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/6/21 5:52 PM, Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget wrote:
> >>> From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> Make use of the new find_basename_matches() function added in the last
> >>> two patches, to find renames more rapidly in cases where we can match up
> >>> files based on basenames.
> >>
> >> This is a valuable heuristic.
> >>
> >>> For the testcases mentioned in commit 557ac0350d ("merge-ort: begin
> >>> performance work; instrument with trace2_region_* calls", 2020-10-28),
> >>> this change improves the performance as follows:
> >>>
> >>>                             Before                  After
> >>>     no-renames:       13.815 s ±  0.062 s    13.138 s ±  0.086 s
> >>>     mega-renames:   1799.937 s ±  0.493 s   169.488 s ±  0.494 s
> >>>     just-one-mega:    51.289 s ±  0.019 s     5.061 s ±  0.017 s
> >>
> >> These numbers are very impressive.
> >>
> >> Before I get too deep into reviewing these patches, I do want
> >> to make it clear that the speed-up is coming at the cost of
> >> a behavior change. We are restricting the "best match" search
> >> to be first among files with common base name (although maybe
> >> I would use 'suffix'?). If we search for a rename among all
> >> additions and deletions ending the ".txt" we might find a
> >> similarity match that is 60% and declare that a rename, even
> >> if there is a ".txt" -> ".md" pair that has a 70% match.
> >
> > I'm glad you all are open to possible behavioral changes, but I was
> > proposing a much smaller behavioral change that is quite different
> > than what you have suggested here.  Perhaps my wording was poor; I
> > apologize for forgetting that "basename" has different meanings in
> > different contexts.  Let me try again; I am not treating the filename
> > extension as special in any manner here; by "basename" I just mean the
> > portion of the path ignoring any leading directories.  Thus
> >     src/foo.txt
> > might be a good match against
> >     source/foo.txt
> > but this optimization as a preliminary step would not consider
> > matching src/foo.txt against any of
> >     source/bar.txt
> >     source/foo.md
> > since the basenames ('bar.txt' and 'foo.md') do not match our original
> > file's basename ('foo.txt').
> >
> > Of course, if this preliminary optimization step fails to find another
> > "foo.txt" to match src/foo.txt against (or finds more than one and
> > thus doesn't compare against any of them), then the fallback inexact
> > rename detection matrix might match it against either of those two
> > latter paths, as it always has.
>
> Thank you for making it clear that I had misunderstood what the
> optimization is actually doing. A much more narrow scope makes
> more sense, and avoids the quadratic problem even when many files
> of the same suffix are renamed.
>
> >> This could be documented in a test case, to demonstrate that
> >> we are making this choice explicitly.
>
> My test is thus bogus, but you could have a similar one for
> your actual optimization.

Yes, good point.

> >> So, in this way, we are changing the optimization function
> >> that is used to determine the "best" rename available. It
> >> might be good to update documentation for how we choose
> >> renames:
> >
> > Seems reasonable; I'll add some commentary below on the rules...
>
> Your commentary is helpful. I look forward to reading your
> carefully-written docs in the next version ;).

:-)

> >>      i. among files with the same basename (trailer
> >>         after final '.') select pairs with highest
> >>         similarity.
> >
> > This is an interesting idea, but is not what I implemented.
>
> That's what I get for reading the commit messages quickly and
> commenting on what I _think_ is going on instead of actually
> reading the code carefully. Sorry about that.

There's absolutely no need to apologize.  If you read all three commit
messages and you didn't understand the idea, then clearly there's a
bug in my commit messages.  Thanks for highlighting it; I'll figure
out how to reword or add extra verbiage to make it clear.  Something
in these follow-up emails seemed to work, so I'll try to incorporate
stuff from them.

> >  It is
> > possible that your suggestion is also a useful optimization; it'd be
> > hard to know without trying.  However, as noted in optimization batch
> > 8 that I'll be submitting later, I'm worried about having any
> > optimization pre-steps doing more than O(1) comparisons per path (and
> > here you suggest comparing each .txt file with all other .txt files);
> > doing that can interact badly with optimization batch 9.
> > Additionally, unless we do something to avoid re-comparing files again
> > when doing the later all-unmatched-files-against-each-other check,
> > then worst case behavior can approach twice as slow as the original
> > code.
>
> Right. If Git decides to reorganize all of its *.c files in one
> commit, we would still get quadratic behavior in rename detection.
> Maybe it's not _that_ much of an improvement.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stolee

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-08 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-06 22:52 [PATCH 0/3] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-06 22:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-06 22:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-06 22:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-07 14:38   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-07 19:51     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08  8:38       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 11:43         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-08 16:25           ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 17:37         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 22:00           ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 23:43             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 23:52               ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08  8:27     ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-08 11:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-08 16:09         ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2021-02-07  5:19 ` [PATCH 0/3] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide rename detection Junio C Hamano
2021-02-07  6:05   ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 11:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 13:17     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 16:56       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 17:02         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:42           ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 13:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:17       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 17:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 13:33     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:41       ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-09 18:59         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-09 11:32   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-09 12:59     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-02-09 17:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-09 17:44         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-10 15:15   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 1/5] t4001: add a test comparing basename similarity and content similarity Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:15       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-13  4:50         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-13 23:56           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  1:24             ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-14  1:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  3:14                 ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 2/5] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:32       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 3/5] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-13 18:34         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-13 23:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  3:08             ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 4/5] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:49       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-10 15:15     ` [PATCH v3 5/5] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-10 16:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-10 17:20         ` Elijah Newren
2021-02-11  8:15     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 1/6] t4001: add a test comparing basename similarity and content similarity Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of all source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 3/6] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 4/6] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 5/6] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-11  8:15       ` [PATCH v4 6/6] merge-ort: call diffcore_rename() directly Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-13  1:53       ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Optimization batch 7: use file basenames to guide rename detection Junio C Hamano
2021-02-14  7:51       ` [PATCH v5 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 1/6] t4001: add a test comparing basename similarity and content similarity Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 2/6] diffcore-rename: compute basenames of source and dest candidates Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 3/6] diffcore-rename: complete find_basename_matches() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 4/6] diffcore-rename: guide inexact rename detection based on basenames Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 5/6] gitdiffcore doc: mention new preliminary step for rename detection Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-02-14  7:51         ` [PATCH v5 6/6] merge-ort: call diffcore_rename() directly Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget

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