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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: "Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>, "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>,
	"Glen Choo" <chooglen@google.com>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.email>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2021 10:31:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BFuKBht2yZ+tYkG+C4Rpek6dLT0gx6pZNH4rXqv0UFf3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <211127.86v90dhf5g.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 6:00 AM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 26 2021, Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget wrote:
>
> [Just some more "I haven't really looked at this in all that much
> detail" commentary, so maybe it's stupid, sorry]
>
> > From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
> >
> > Removing the current working directory causes all subsequent git
> > commands run from that directory to get confused and fail with a message
> > about being unable to read the current working directory:
> >
> >     $ git status
> >     fatal: Unable to read current working directory: No such file or directory
> >
> > Non-git commands likely have similar warnings or even errors, e.g.
> >
> >     $ bash -c 'echo hello'
> >     shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
> >     hello
>
> Is that really realistic?

I have 321 shell scripts (or symlinks thereto) in /usr/bin/ on my
Fedora laptop, and 951 shell scripts in /usr/bin/ on my Ubuntu
workstation at $DAYJOB.  That's not even considering stuff in other
directories.  Note that I didn't place any of those scripts in
/usr/bin/; they came from the distribution and/or corporate packages
from others.  Any invocation of bash will see the above "error"
message.  Granted, bash calls it an 'error' but continues anyway, but
I thought it showed that there were clearly programs besides git where
users could run into problems.

> Any "normal" command would use "pwd" or look
> at $PWD, both of which "work", this error is only because we're starting
> a new shell.

<grin>

Yeah, good point.  Who would use an unusual program like git?  Or a
shell script?  Or a java program?  Or emacs?  Or other programs like
them?  Besides, git, bash, java, and emacs are all relatively young
commands with small development teams.  Maybe we should just rely on
users only using commands that get the pwd/$PWD detail right; perhaps
limiting to commands that are more mature and have bigger development
teams than those four.

Silly users.

;-)

Sorry, couldn't resist a little friendly teasing.


However, for "pwd"...by "work", do you mean "doesn't necessarily
work"?  On my machine:

$ mkdir gone
$ cd gone
$ rmdir ../gone
$ pwd -P
pwd: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent
directories: No such file or directory
$ pwd
pwd: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent
directories: No such file or directory
$ echo $PWD
/home/newren/floss/git/gone

If I do not run `pwd -P` first then a plain `pwd` works.  But your
advice to use `pwd` seems misguided for programs, since they'll hit
this problem if users have run a previous `pwd -P`.  (The $PWD trick
would have worked, as shown above)

> I wonder if it was just because you ran into our bin-wrappers edge case,
> but that should be really obscure for any real users.

Yes, I agree our bin-wrappers is a really obscure edge case not worth
considering.  I don't see how you jump from there to painting all
shell scripts combined with the same brush, though.

> > This confuses end users, particularly since the command they get the
> > error from is not the one that caused the problem; the problem came from
> > the side-effect of some previous command.
> >
> > We would like to avoid removing the current working directory of our
> > parent process; towards this end, introduce a new variable,
> > startup_info->original_cwd, that tracks the current working directory
> > that we inherited from our parent process.  For convenience of later
> > comparisons, we prefer that this new variable store a path relative to
> > the toplevel working directory (thus much like 'prefix'), except without
> > the trailing slash.
>
> I'm still not clear at all on why we need a "original_cwd" at all then
> as opposed to just using "prefix" (or adding "the_prefix" if passing it
> down is painful). I.e. we discover our relative path, we resolve the
> relative path to the root, can't we use that as the "don't remove our
> CWD" guard?
>
> Does our prefix change at some point, then maybe "orig_prefix" would
> make more sense?

No; see the code comment in the same patch:

+       /*
+        * startup_info->original_cwd points to the current working
+        * directory we inherited from our parent process, which is a
+        * directory we want to avoid removing.
+        *
+        * For convience, we would like to have the path relative to the
+        * worktree instead of an absolute path.
+        *
+        * Yes, startup_info->original_cwd is usually the same as 'prefix',
+        * but differs in two ways:
+        *   - prefix has a trailing '/'
+        *   - if the user passes '-C' to git, that modifies the prefix but
+        *     not startup_info->original_cwd.
+        */

It's never equal to prefix, even though it's usually semantically
referring to the same directory.  However, even if it weren't for the
trailing slash issue, the -C case means it is not appropriate to think
of it as "orig_prefix" either.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-27 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-21  0:46 [PATCH 0/8] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 1/8] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21 17:57   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23  1:45     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-23  2:19       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23  3:11         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25 10:04           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 2/8] repository, setup: introduce the_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  8:00   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-22 22:38     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  8:56   ` René Scharfe
2021-11-22 23:09     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 3/8] unpack-trees: refuse to remove the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 4/8] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 5/8] symlinks: do not include current working directory in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  8:56   ` René Scharfe
2021-11-23  0:35     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 6/8] clean: do not attempt to remove current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21 17:51   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-23  1:28     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-21  0:46 ` [PATCH 7/8] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-21  0:47 ` [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-23  0:39   ` Glen Choo
2021-11-23  1:19     ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-23 18:19       ` Glen Choo
2021-11-23 19:56         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-23 20:32           ` Glen Choo
2021-11-23 21:57             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-23 23:23               ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24  5:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-23 23:13             ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24  0:39               ` Glen Choo
2021-11-24  5:46                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-24  1:10           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-24  4:35             ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24 11:14               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-24 14:11                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-25  2:54                   ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25 11:12                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 21:40                       ` The overhead of bin-wrappers/ (was: [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the current working directory) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-24 14:33                 ` [PATCH 8/8] dir: avoid removing the current working directory Philip Oakley
2021-11-24 19:46                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-25 12:54                     ` Philip Oakley
2021-11-25 13:51                       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-25  2:48                 ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-24 19:43               ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-21  8:11 ` [PATCH 0/8] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Junio C Hamano
2021-11-25  8:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:21     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:44     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 17:55       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-26  6:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-26 18:01       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 14:05     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:18       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 17:43         ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:42       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:56     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 18:06       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 14:10     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:26       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 14:14     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 17:33       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25 10:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-26 18:04       ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-25  8:39   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-27 10:32       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-27 19:16         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-27 10:35       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-27 17:05         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-27 10:40       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-27 18:31         ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2021-11-28 18:04           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-29 21:58             ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 17:50       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 19:22         ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 19:42           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-11-26 22:40     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:41     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:41     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-26 22:41     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 17:57     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Derrick Stolee
2021-11-29 22:37     ` [PATCH v4 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-30  6:47         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-30  6:53           ` Elijah Newren
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 22:37       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-29 23:38       ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Eric Sunshine
2021-11-30  0:16         ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-01  6:40       ` [PATCH v5 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-01-25 20:26           ` [Bug] Rebase from worktree subdir is broken (was Re: [PATCH v5 07/11] rebase: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd) Glen Choo
2022-01-25 23:59             ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  0:30               ` Glen Choo
2022-01-26 19:04                 ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  0:32               ` Eric Sunshine
2022-01-26  0:38                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-01-26  0:51                   ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26  1:15                     ` Glen Choo
2022-01-26  1:38                       ` Elijah Newren
2022-01-26 11:00               ` Phillip Wood
2022-01-26 17:53                 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-01-27 11:01                   ` Phillip Wood
2022-01-27 20:03                   ` Elijah Newren
2022-02-05 11:23                     ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-05 11:42                       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-02-05 22:35                         ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 08/11] stash: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-01  6:40         ` [PATCH v5 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-07 16:09         ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Derrick Stolee
2021-12-07 18:30           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 20:57             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-08 10:23               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 20:43           ` Elijah Newren
2021-12-07 21:00             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-12-09  5:08         ` [PATCH v6 " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 01/11] t2501: add various tests for removing the current working directory Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2022-03-11 11:57             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 02/11] setup: introduce startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 03/11] unpack-trees: refuse to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 04/11] unpack-trees: add special cwd handling Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 05/11] symlinks: do not include startup_info->original_cwd in dir removal Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 06/11] clean: do not attempt to remove startup_info->original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 07/11] rebase: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 08/11] stash: " Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 09/11] dir: avoid incidentally removing the original_cwd in remove_path() Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 10/11] dir: new flag to remove_dir_recurse() to spare the original_cwd Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-12-09  5:08           ` [PATCH v6 11/11] t2501: simplify the tests since we can now assume desired behavior Elijah Newren via GitGitGadget
2021-11-30 11:04     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Avoid removing the current working directory, even if it becomes empty Phillip Wood
2021-12-01  0:03       ` Elijah Newren

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