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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	 Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,  Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	 Rick Sanders <rick@sfconservancy.org>,
	Git at SFC <git@sfconservancy.org>,
	 Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>,
	 Christian Couder <chriscool@tuxfamily.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] SubmittingPatches: add section about AI
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 13:48:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BFcg9M=XjqGPd+akrUOqJqREBmE9+NvO1Q05r4pUcOmEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aN2fG-nS9fE5-2jD@fruit.crustytoothpaste.net>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 2:37 PM brian m. carlson
<sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> wrote:
>
> On 2025-10-01 at 14:02:50, Christian Couder wrote:
> > +[[ai]]
> > +=== Use of Artificial Intelligence (AI)
> > +
> > +The Developer's Certificate of Origin requires contributors to certify
> > +that they know the origin of their contributions to the project and
> > +that they have the right to submit it under the project's license.
> > +It's not yet clear that this can be legally satisfied when submitting
> > +significant amount of content that has been generated by AI tools.
>
> Perhaps we'd like to write this:
>
>   It's not yet clear that this can be legally satisfied when submitting
>   significant amount of content that has been generated by AI tools,
>   so we cannot accept this content in our project.
>
> If we're going to have a policy, we need to be direct about it and not
> let people draw their own conclusions.  Many people don't have English
> as a first language and we don't want people trying to language lawyer.
>
> We could say something like this:
>
>   Please do not sign off your work if you’re using an LLM to contribute
>   unless you have included copyright and license information for all the
>   code used in that LLM.

Would this mean that you wanted to ban contributions like d12166d3c8bb
(Merge branch 'en/docfixes', 2023-10-23), available on the list over
at https://lore.kernel.org/git/pull.1595.git.1696747527.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/
?   We don't need to go theoretical, I've already contributed such a
patch series before -- 2 years ago -- and it was merged.  Granted,
that was entirely documentation, and I called out the usage of AI in
the cover letter, and I manually checked every change (discarding many
of them) and split it into commits on my own, could easily explain any
change and why it was good, etc.  And I was upfront about all of it.

If any use of AI is bad, do we need to revert that series?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-03 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-30 20:32 [RFC/PATCH] SubmittingPatches: forbid use of genAI to generate changes Junio C Hamano
2025-06-30 21:07 ` brian m. carlson
2025-06-30 21:23   ` Collin Funk
2025-07-01 10:36 ` Christian Couder
2025-07-01 11:07   ` Christian Couder
2025-07-01 17:33     ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-01 16:20   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-07-08 14:23     ` Christian Couder
2025-10-01 14:02 ` [PATCH v2] SubmittingPatches: add section about AI Christian Couder
2025-10-01 18:59   ` Chuck Wolber
2025-10-01 23:32     ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-02  2:30       ` Ben Knoble
2025-10-03 13:33     ` Christian Couder
2025-10-01 20:59   ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-03  8:51     ` Christian Couder
2025-10-03 16:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-03 16:45         ` rsbecker
2025-10-08  7:22         ` Christian Couder
2025-10-01 21:37   ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-03 14:25     ` Christian Couder
2025-10-03 20:48     ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2025-10-03 22:20       ` brian m. carlson
2025-10-06 17:45         ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-08  4:18           ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-12 15:07             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-08  9:28           ` Christian Couder
2025-10-13 18:14             ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-23 17:32               ` Junio C Hamano
2025-10-08  4:18         ` Elijah Newren
2025-10-08  8:37         ` Christian Couder
2025-10-08  9:28           ` Michal Suchánek
2025-10-08  9:35             ` Christian Couder
2025-10-09  1:13           ` Collin Funk
2025-10-08  7:30       ` Christian Couder

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