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From: Angelo Borsotti <angelo.borsotti@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: erratic behavior commit --allow-empty
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:35:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB9Jk9BczA0KjU2oKm=S_Ms6mqBFNHg8RO3xvb+PNEsMxQih+A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506BE577.900@viscovery.net>

Hi Hannes,

>
> Perhaps you are confused by the fact that the commit you made first does
> not have a parent, either. But that is just a "side effect" that it
> happened to be the very first commit that you made after 'git init'.

Well, I know that, and this is why I added --allow-empty. The man page of
git commit ("This option bypasses the safety, ..."). I thought that it
would unconditionally
create a brand new, commit.

> Your case does not demonstrate a bug in git.

The bug is that the git commit --allow-empty does a different action
depending on
whether the system clock has changed its seconds right before the command.
This is a time-dependent behavior, and it is very harmful. Our applications must
never behave differently depending on the time they are run or on the processor
speed. It is an issue of correctness and robustness of software. To
have a predictable
behavior, i.e. to create a brand new commit with git commit
--allow-empty, the command
in a script must ALWAYS be preceded by a sleep 1 so as to make sure
that the date
and time it will use are for sure different from any other commits'.
But then it would be a lot better to embed such a sleep in the command.
If that is not possible, then the users must be warned in the man page
that the command
sometimes may not create a brand new commit, and that if the user
instead wants it s/he
should change something in the commit, like, e.g. the message.

>
> Why don't you use a different commit message to ensure that there is a
> difference between the commits?
>

This is what eventually I did to force the creation of a brand new commit.

-Angelo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-03  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-02  7:51 erratic behavior commit --allow-empty Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-02  8:26 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-10-02  8:49   ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-02 17:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-02 19:34     ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-02 19:56       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-02 21:56         ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03  2:10           ` PJ Weisberg
2012-10-03  5:37           ` Johannes Sixt
2012-10-03  6:22             ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03  6:27               ` Johannes Sixt
     [not found]                 ` <CAB9Jk9AgtNQfWDr31CWbXf2ag=11du-aruu-0+nOZ3KaaG9=og@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-03  7:12                   ` Johannes Sixt
2012-10-03  7:35                     ` Angelo Borsotti [this message]
2012-10-03 20:49                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-10-03  7:29           ` Philip Oakley
2012-10-03  7:45             ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03  8:04               ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-03  8:24                 ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 11:07                   ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-03 11:52                     ` Angelo Borsotti
     [not found]                       ` <CABURp0oHez6j8+FPG8Zm52TGVyC1XwWhE55TBDrXRGFrW6kWww@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-03 13:35                         ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 14:15                           ` Phil Hord
2012-10-03 13:57                       ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-03 14:46                         ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 14:52                           ` Matthieu Moy
2012-10-03 22:32                       ` Philip Oakley
2012-10-04  7:07                         ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-04 13:24                           ` Phil Hord
2012-10-04 19:00                             ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-04 21:17                           ` Philip Oakley
2012-10-04 22:09                             ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-04 22:42                               ` Philip Oakley
2012-10-04 23:10                                 ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 12:25                   ` Tomas Carnecky
2012-10-03 13:08                     ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 10:12               ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-03 11:37                 ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 13:44                   ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-03 14:37                     ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 16:44                       ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-03 17:37                         ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 19:03                           ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-03 19:11                             ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 20:30                               ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-03 12:59       ` Phil Hord
2012-10-03 14:25         ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 16:06           ` PJ Weisberg
2012-10-03 17:34             ` Angelo Borsotti
2012-10-03 19:05               ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-03 19:43               ` PJ Weisberg
2012-10-05  8:15               ` Lars Noschinski
2013-01-12 18:30   ` Jan Engelhardt
2013-01-16 12:26     ` Joachim Schmitz

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