From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4669F20401 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752528AbdFMGXr (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:23:47 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-f54.google.com ([209.85.214.54]:35489 "EHLO mail-it0-f54.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752387AbdFMGXo (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:23:44 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f54.google.com with SMTP id m62so35354484itc.0 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:23:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=NcmAKAj12UDXZBoyC4sK4vJ/HftcgNe9dAs5Ei83Pgo=; b=NauDRHw1KRDfWMpZnH9cg1QRzbepyeJuwBmbR1f2b7zYngoNn4zAA8IMW7QS4uuldQ 3zU2/okd3Rv44bzW9oyHfLYdFCqHtFFYn82Sv5+e3bcUp0noSUmMQainSIg8zHMKobeh lprFPFDCGQbHfd+bwqGFULlfSsOFQWGcn3rLBRiR1o0dsOcrlHlHN3enYLXtLfVETEDC qtg909yQBm6CwsVbRtk+Clp8DPvKd9OfVBRb4n/19kgpzEasBvpaIKOvA5gCUY691TVK H8OvfhRr4hfmPSPAa8ks+hLfcAvrQcbVfqskn7PmqPgwMzeU6a5BYQolnj2DXUXeothc 6s5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NcmAKAj12UDXZBoyC4sK4vJ/HftcgNe9dAs5Ei83Pgo=; b=A/Nsek2tKv+LXcHCi3lqBPqaH/45RSMiOjKfSRAcDYZozXYV8djL9/6B1Ko2d5L5h2 p88yRwG4Ud1BARPsPLIQ7iAWNw4gB7z2/cF4dkqtII+R4uP26OrRlyJNrBS0T18coxHp S8x2wXvufhUwkTLY484eFcz0nHZuCz3q8MhDs9qaYdng/bnvJN8pebfC/0VKWfex/d+U zO+voHmEFK94hmjt9OEpg8TUhthAZe9eBv9xwsDGmAZYk5Ml4vneL1O8bsItLnxzi/MC qE3rbI6yiOmjteqvVVkAKbj4pRqJ8BSxJrNrv5jxTuxh6wn6QqTU73/AsAGkZ4A3bTC9 uPMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcB066xCjkEUotLd8N8AlyaCf1/i9+P4GSMqa5SBStDXD8o/fKJU IFaVd6qiVc6ZZS8uJERUCbgXJTZqkA== X-Received: by 10.36.79.214 with SMTP id c205mr15084061itb.58.1497335023908; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:23:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.157.20 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:23:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170612211022.k7t2ywngrdcrkehn@sigill.intra.peff.net> References: <20170602225148.drkl7obwhzypgjtr@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20170607081729.6pz5yo2hmp4fwuas@sigill.intra.peff.net> <662a84da-8a66-3a37-d9d2-4ff8b5f996c3@web.de> <22846.51138.555606.729612@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20170612182045.z4d37ph5uqqhwmas@sigill.intra.peff.net> <20170612211022.k7t2ywngrdcrkehn@sigill.intra.peff.net> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:23:43 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: p2uOwE1_uAiAlqTtweQ_PyRFNZQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] strbuf: let strbuf_addftime handle %z and %Z itself To: Jeff King Cc: =?UTF-8?B?w4Z2YXIgQXJuZmrDtnLDsCBCamFybWFzb24=?= , Ulrich Mueller , Junio C Hamano , =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=C3=A9_Scharfe?= , Git Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Jeff King wrote: > > I suspect nobody has complained because we generally encourage real > "-0800" names when specifying zones. That's what any sane person uses, and it's what SMTP requiries. The timezone names are a (bad) joke. If a human can't understand them (and people don't), there's no point in thinking that a computer should either. So yes, timezones should strive very much to be numeric. The names are an incomprehensible mess. Don't rely on them, and try to avoid using them. Linus