From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BC91FF6D for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 02:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758917AbcLPCAs (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:00:48 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f67.google.com ([209.85.214.67]:36533 "EHLO mail-it0-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758904AbcLPCAn (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 21:00:43 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f67.google.com with SMTP id n68so965426itn.3 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=w0JJGc5Q8d3hUOR7zY9RJ99IR4ZoACBA+02bCJRWHNQ=; b=TuSlyQkNJdnB6G7i/Ju8TQZbb+nI/IcxNPqGsFxKzp8QDHkxRMh4wGXlepAbLqu30d 8BdE6it+h2LF5y5ihqIoWolmfOC6e4n7Ywjf6knOHQpnssy95tfUzLUEyHfNQn2n4eve 7r+S5QAF/xIAf1bvOOXfPDeogdVYqtri2isBCx79yZauRmKWESVNIARPpHRLRNLpXz6S BO2Lyzqda7scG5AeT+5OyukG8Yy69jNiWl0DF7wW4sfck2dlXINarlssrhbOhp7svnwu O/0ZY+M0Ya6o8wFrCfl3Y1F+ur2RLA+0Hnzc5n/xNOqwy/yOEWn2VULoACrYl5nI/Xkx nxkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=w0JJGc5Q8d3hUOR7zY9RJ99IR4ZoACBA+02bCJRWHNQ=; b=guF3fr9jSZrTK4OMkg7PgTBkmEfeOKYlqVzTzJPZejjGJvPCbwon4Pj6gZIl4LDFWX JuglpWxoX/dqaUgUTPXU6ZrFpdXsvEW8vOVXbTJNnwPUTZP+gBeNyTT1QQv3eBmKtPLn qmNzuHVYDvZgyiRi51/KYDSUffjOhk822vbOF1LPX2jhHOMV1mlvtuTkyjDMTWGKUP2X 6htf4EytuFbcGNw9wPEBTAnOWMtqhEn8q5MW/7NmO8mP6bDvbw7NKmf5ZO2hVPLQrPwl EXikulGnoRADLvvgxaPpxZeIEDZggzYiWW8RpPsx0eL3F7j2b1bdkmwbAntSoiOALBlj iMQw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC035DC93xXckf6WKd6+7R5/TLPai5QO0cNSWyDH+tm1HCCepoPbci1jEUnekUkCptx3oPXFlhp+nqUzKDg== X-Received: by 10.36.148.84 with SMTP id j81mr613662ite.35.1481853601917; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:00:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.146.65 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:00:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3720429.U3o1zloj4W@thunderbird> References: <3720429.U3o1zloj4W@thunderbird> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:00:01 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HUFc8hEQsTB3g2jGKFFqeZR_nP4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Allow "git shortlog" to group by committer information To: "Stephen & Linda Smith" Cc: Junio C Hamano , Git Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Stephen & Linda Smith wrote: > > Why does gmail make it unnecessarily hard? I read email with the gmail web interface, which is wonderful because of the server-side searching etc. The only real downside is the weak threading, but you get used to it. I personally find IMAP and POP to be a tool of the devil, and have never had a good experience with them as a mail interface. In theory IMAP is supposed to support server-side searches, in practice it never worked for me. But the problem with sending patches using the web interface is that you cannot attach things inline without gmail screwing up whitespace. I suggested to some googler that a "attach inline" checkbox in the would be a wonderful option for text attachments, but considering that the android gmail app still has no text-only option I don't think that suggestion went anywhere. > I thought that a good percentage of the kernel maintainers use git send-email. > what would make that command easier to use with gmail? Oh, I can send inline stuff (as I just re-sent that patch), but then I have to fire up alpine and do it the old-fashioned way. So it's an extra step. So since I spend all my time at the gmail web interface _anyway_, the attachment model ends up being the slightly more convenient one. And sure, I could use git-send-email as that extra step instead, but I'd rather just use alpine. That's the extra step I do for some other things (ie the "200-email patch-bomb from Andrew Morton" things - I'm not using the web interface for _that_). Linus