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From: "Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.org>
To: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Stefan Beller" <sbeller@google.com>
Cc: "git" <git@vger.kernel.org>, "Kevin Daudt" <me@ikke.info>,
	"Jacob Keller" <jacob.keller@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] builtin/describe.c: describe a blob
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 21:15:18 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BFE987312194406AAAEA8DAC7EC5BFF5@PhilipOakley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: xmqq375xs3zr.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com

From: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 4:23 AM
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>
>> The reason why we say "-ish" is "Yes we know v2.15.0 is *NOT* a
>> commit object, we very well know it is a tag object, but because we
>> allow it to be used in a context that calls for a commit object, we
>> mark that use context as 'this accepts commit-ish, not just
>> commit'".
>
> Having said all that, there is a valid case in which we might want
> to say "blob-ish".

Is this not also an alternative case, relative to the user, for the scenario 
where the user has an oid/sha1 value but does not know what it is, and would 
like to find its source and type relative to the `describe` command.

IIUC the existing `describe` command only accepts <commit-ish> values, and 
here we are extending that to be even more inclusive, but at the same time 
the options become more restricted. Thus the synopsis terminology would be 
more about suggesting the range of options available (search style/start 
points) that are applicable to blobs, than being exactly about the 
'allow-blobs' parameter.

Or have I misunderstood how the fast commit search and the slower 
potentially-a-blob searching are disambiguated?
--
Philip

>
> To review, X-ish is the word we use when the command wants to take
> an X, but tolerates a lazy user who gives a Y, which is *NOT* X,
> without bothering to add ^{X} suffix, i.e. Y^{X}.  In such a case,
> the command takes not just X but takes X-ish because it takes a Y
> and converts it internally to an X to be extra nice.
>
> When the command wants to take a blob, but tolerates something else
> and does "^{blob}" internally, we can say it takes "blob-ish".
> Technically that "something else" could be an annotated tag that
> points at a blob object, without any intervening commit or tree (I
> did not check if the "describe <blob>" code in this thread handles
> this, though).
>
> But because it is not usually done to tag a blob directly, it would
> probably be not worth to say "blob-ish" in the document and cause
> readers to wonder in what situation something that is not a blob can
> be treated as if it were a blob.  It does feel like we would be
> pursuing technical correctness too much and sacrificing the readability
> of the document, at least to me, and a bad trade-off.
>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-04 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-28  0:44 [RFC PATCH 0/3] git-describe <blob> ? Stefan Beller
2017-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH 1/3] list-objects.c: factor out traverse_trees_and_blobs Stefan Beller
2017-10-28  0:45   ` [PATCH 2/3] revision.h: introduce blob/tree walking in order of the commits Stefan Beller
2017-10-28 17:20     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-29  3:22       ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-29  3:23         ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-29  3:43           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-28  0:45   ` [PATCH 3/3] builtin/describe: describe blobs Stefan Beller
2017-10-28 17:32     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-28 22:47       ` Jacob Keller
2017-10-29  3:28       ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-29 12:02         ` Kevin Daudt
2017-10-29 12:07         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-28 17:15   ` [PATCH 1/3] list-objects.c: factor out traverse_trees_and_blobs Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-29  3:13     ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-28 16:04 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] git-describe <blob> ? Johannes Schindelin
2017-10-31  0:33 ` [PATCH 0/7] git-describe <blob> Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 1/7] list-objects.c: factor out traverse_trees_and_blobs Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  6:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 2/7] revision.h: introduce blob/tree walking in order of the commits Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  6:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 18:12       ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 3/7] builtin/describe.c: rename `oid` to avoid variable shadowing Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  8:15     ` Jacob Keller
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 4/7] builtin/describe.c: print debug statements earlier Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  7:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 19:05       ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 5/7] builtin/describe.c: factor out describe_commit Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 6/7] builtin/describe.c: describe a blob Stefan Beller
2017-10-31  6:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 19:16       ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01  3:34         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 20:58           ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-02  1:53             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-02  4:23               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-04 21:15                 ` Philip Oakley [this message]
2017-11-05  6:28                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-06 23:50                     ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-09 20:30                       ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-10  0:25                         ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-10  1:24                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-10 22:44                             ` [PATCH 0/1] describe a blob: with better docs Stefan Beller
2017-11-10 22:44                               ` [PATCH] builtin/describe.c: describe a blob Stefan Beller
2017-11-13  1:33                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-14 23:37                                   ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-20 15:22                             ` [PATCH 6/7] " Philip Oakley
2017-11-20 18:18                               ` Philip Oakley
2017-11-01  3:44         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31  0:33   ` [PATCH 7/7] t6120: fix typo in test name Stefan Beller
2017-11-01  1:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 18:13       ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-02  1:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 21:18   ` [PATCHv2 0/7] git describe blob Stefan Beller
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 1/7] list-objects.c: factor out traverse_trees_and_blobs Stefan Beller
2017-11-01  3:46       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 2/7] revision.h: introduce blob/tree walking in order of the commits Stefan Beller
2017-11-01  3:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 12:26         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 12:37           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 19:37             ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01 22:08               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 22:19                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01 22:39                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 22:46                     ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01 21:36             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 21:39               ` Jeff King
2017-11-01 22:33                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-02  1:20                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 3/7] builtin/describe.c: rename `oid` to avoid variable shadowing Stefan Beller
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 4/7] builtin/describe.c: print debug statements earlier Stefan Beller
2017-10-31 21:31       ` Eric Sunshine
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 5/7] builtin/describe.c: factor out describe_commit Stefan Beller
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 6/7] builtin/describe.c: describe a blob Stefan Beller
2017-10-31 21:49       ` Eric Sunshine
2017-11-01 19:51         ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01  4:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-01 12:32         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 17:59           ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01 21:05             ` Jacob Keller
2017-11-01 22:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 22:21                 ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-01 22:41                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 22:53                     ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-02  6:05                     ` Jacob Keller
2017-11-03  5:18                       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-03  6:55                         ` Jacob Keller
2017-11-03 15:02                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-02  7:23                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-11-02 18:18                       ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-03 12:05                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-11-01 21:28         ` Stefan Beller
2017-10-31 21:18     ` [PATCHv2 7/7] t6120: fix typo in test name Stefan Beller
2017-11-01  5:14     ` [PATCHv2 0/7] git describe blob Junio C Hamano
2017-11-02 19:41     ` [PATCHv3 " Stefan Beller
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 1/7] t6120: fix typo in test name Stefan Beller
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 2/7] list-objects.c: factor out traverse_trees_and_blobs Stefan Beller
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 3/7] revision.h: introduce blob/tree walking in order of the commits Stefan Beller
2017-11-14 19:52         ` Jonathan Tan
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 4/7] builtin/describe.c: rename `oid` to avoid variable shadowing Stefan Beller
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 5/7] builtin/describe.c: print debug statements earlier Stefan Beller
2017-11-14 19:55         ` Jonathan Tan
2017-11-14 20:00           ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 6/7] builtin/describe.c: factor out describe_commit Stefan Beller
2017-11-02 19:41       ` [PATCHv3 7/7] builtin/describe.c: describe a blob Stefan Beller
2017-11-14 20:02         ` Jonathan Tan
2017-11-14 20:40           ` Stefan Beller
2017-11-14 21:17             ` Jonathan Tan
2017-11-03  0:23       ` [PATCHv3 0/7] git describe blob Jacob Keller
2017-11-03  1:46         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-11-03  2:29           ` Stefan Beller

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